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Postby The Miner Part 2 » Sat Mar 05, 2005 6:04 pm

LBJackal wrote:He may be off roids, but if he's healthy, he is a great hitter. How can you project .250-.260? This is a man who has a .411 career OBA. Most people don't understand what that means. Do you know how many people in all of baseball had an OBA that high last year alone? Two. He has a good eye at the plate, is patient, and is an excellent hitter. Steroids were a small part of what made him one of the best hitters of the past decade. He might not crush 40 HR, but healthy, I see .300 - 30 - 100 - 100. Not great, but for where he's being drafted that's a huge steal.


so whats your excuses for him hitting .250 two years ago? the guys on a quick downhill slide IMO. You say .300 - 30 - 100 - 100 isnt great?! thats jd drew last year, and that would put him around the 25th over ranked player! steriods were a small part of what made him a great hitter over the past decade? how do you know that? i believe its made a huge difference, physically and mentally, and the numbers would seem to support that.
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Postby Pedantic » Sat Mar 05, 2005 6:14 pm

The Miner Part 2 wrote:giambi = brad wilkerson = jermey burnitz. good luck with that.


Sheesh, don't insult Wilkerson like that. ;-) At least Wilkerson gives you double digit steals.
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Postby The Miner Part 2 » Sat Mar 05, 2005 6:16 pm

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The Miner Part 2 wrote:giambi = brad wilkerson = jermey burnitz. good luck with that.


Sheesh, don't insult Wilkerson like that. ;-) At least Wilkerson gives you double digit steals.


ha, yea im in a 13x13 league so sb's arent very important. i tend to lose track of the 10-20 sb guys.
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Postby Conner » Sat Mar 05, 2005 6:17 pm

Giambi was a .330-.340 hitter before his barrage of injuries the past couple of years.

I think .280-.290 is more likely, but I wouldn't count out a .300 season this year.



Also...Giambi isn't the only one coming off of steroids. If it's going to affect him so much...then it'll also affect the other guys you think will be better than him...
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Postby The Miner Part 2 » Sat Mar 05, 2005 6:21 pm

Conner wrote:Giambi was a .330-.340 hitter before his barrage of injuries the past couple of years.


he played 156 games and had 530 ab's two years ago. cant blame health.
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Postby Conner » Sat Mar 05, 2005 6:29 pm

The Miner Part 2 wrote:
Conner wrote:Giambi was a .330-.340 hitter before his barrage of injuries the past couple of years.


he played 156 games and had 530 ab's two years ago. cant blame health.


Yes, you can. Guys play with all kinds of ailments all the time.

Especially in the american league, with the designated hitter.
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Postby blankman » Sat Mar 05, 2005 6:29 pm

I think Jason is in for a relativley great year.

.290 32 100 should be easily reachable IMO.

This is a great hitter and I'd argue that the steriods made him a worse hitter as he tried to pull everything for a HR. He's been working on hitting to the opposite field for this season and if he can do that again like in Oakland to avoid the Giambi shift (3 infielders on the right side) I think he could be very good again.
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Postby blankman » Sat Mar 05, 2005 6:31 pm

Conner wrote:
The Miner Part 2 wrote:
Conner wrote:Giambi was a .330-.340 hitter before his barrage of injuries the past couple of years.


he played 156 games and had 530 ab's two years ago. cant blame health.


Yes, you can. Guys play with all kinds of ailments all the time.

Especially in the american league, with the designated hitter.


Exactly. There is more to health than games played. Look at Gary Sheffield. The man was wreck all season last year and still played in most of the games. He was obviously, very far from healthy.

Two years ago, Giambi was basically blind with eye problems and his knee was another huge problem. He was nowhere near healthy then or last year.
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Postby The Miner Part 2 » Sat Mar 05, 2005 6:36 pm

blankman wrote:
Conner wrote:
The Miner Part 2 wrote:
Conner wrote:Giambi was a .330-.340 hitter before his barrage of injuries the past couple of years.


he played 156 games and had 530 ab's two years ago. cant blame health.


Yes, you can. Guys play with all kinds of ailments all the time.

Especially in the american league, with the designated hitter.


Exactly. There is more to health than games played. Look at Gary Sheffield. The man was wreck all season last year and still played in most of the games. He was obviously, very far from healthy.

Two years ago, Giambi was basically blind with eye problems and his knee was another huge problem. He was nowhere near healthy then or last year.


not sure were sheff fits in here, he still had a monster year.
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