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Postby Fantasy Guru » Fri Apr 22, 2005 7:40 pm

My friend asked me this: "i looked at my team yesterday and it said i-rod had a .143 avg. and a .125 obp... how can his obp be less than his average?"
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Postby INKcogKNEEdough » Fri Apr 22, 2005 7:48 pm

that DOES sound odd but if im not mistaken(and beLIEVE me i COULD be) if i am not mistaken OBP does NOT count Homeruns?

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Postby matmat » Fri Apr 22, 2005 7:53 pm

simple

sacrifice hits (bunts, etc) don't count toward your average, but they do count toward your obp

so if someone goes 1/6 (hitting) they've gone 1/7 if there was a plate appearance in which they bunted someone over.
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Postby Mustangs989 » Fri Apr 22, 2005 7:54 pm

If he had a sac bunt perhaps it doesn't effect his average but it would his OBP I believe. I could be wrong though.
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Postby d18Mike » Fri Apr 22, 2005 9:42 pm

This happened to Alex Sanchez (a prolific bunter and notoriously low BB rate player) for the grand period of one game in very early 2004. I remember it well because it was the butt of a number of jokes.
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Postby BobbyRoberto » Sat Apr 23, 2005 2:00 am

Actually, sacrifice bunts don't count against a batter for OBP, sacrifice flies do, though. That's the difference.

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Postby wrveres » Sat Apr 23, 2005 2:13 am

BobbyRoberto wrote:Actually, sacrifice bunts don't count against a batter for OBP, sacrifice flies do, though. That's the difference.

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/stats.shtml


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Postby klvrdude » Sat Apr 23, 2005 2:37 am

I wonder why sac bunts aren't somehow factored into the equation even though sac flies are???

I guess I'll just have to file that under, "Things that make you go Hmmmm".
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Postby Madison » Sat Apr 23, 2005 2:45 am

klvrdude wrote:I wonder why sac bunts aren't somehow factored into the equation even though sac flies are???

I guess I'll just have to file that under, "Things that make you go Hmmmm".


Because sac bunts are made by guys who have zero chance at beating it out to first.

Sac flies are mistakes basically. Sure, the batter may be trying to hit a long fly ball, but they are not trying to make an out in the process. It's more of an accident where as sac bunts, the batter knows he's going to be out.

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Postby Fantasy Guru » Sat Apr 23, 2005 3:26 am

Madison wrote:
klvrdude wrote:I wonder why sac bunts aren't somehow factored into the equation even though sac flies are???

I guess I'll just have to file that under, "Things that make you go Hmmmm".


Because sac bunts are made by guys who have zero chance at beating it out to first.

Sac flies are mistakes basically. Sure, the batter may be trying to hit a long fly ball, but they are not trying to make an out in the process. It's more of an accident where as sac bunts, the batter knows he's going to be out.

Hope that makes sense, it's late and I'm tired. X-I Lol. :-D


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