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PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2005 6:40 pm
by CubsFan7724
It just seems like he has the red light. Randolph is foolishly not allowing Beltran to do what he does best: determine when and when not to steal.

PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2005 6:41 pm
by slomo007
CubsFan7724 wrote:It just seems like he has the red light. Randolph is foolishly not allowing Beltran to do what he does best: determine when and when not to steal.


Hey CF, you should be proud. I actually rooted for the Cubs to win in extra innings because I want to teach Red Light Randolph a lesson for not sending Beltran when he reached in the 10th. }:-)

PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2005 7:32 pm
by RynMan
Dawgpound 1613 wrote:Outside of Reyes, no one on that team is stealing like they could be. To me, it seems like Willie has the red light on. I've tempered my SB expectations for all Mets unless something changes.


I think this is how you have to proceed at this point.

PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2005 7:56 pm
by reznorsboy
Maybe they just figure to get steals from reyes and want Beltran to concentrate more on hitting for power. Different managers have different styles. Maybe there is an unseen factor like a nagging injury or something!!!

PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2005 8:02 pm
by Octavian
RynMan wrote:
Dawgpound 1613 wrote:Outside of Reyes, no one on that team is stealing like they could be. To me, it seems like Willie has the red light on. I've tempered my SB expectations for all Mets unless something changes.


I think this is how you have to proceed at this point.


It really is, Randolph is a station to station manager. And again, Beltran's speed benefits the Mets the most in CF, not on the base paths. They just signed him to a huge deal, he's young, they don't want to run his wheels out from underhim and lose the whole ball of wax. Without those legs, he's worthless defensively and they drafted him for that skill just as much as anything else he provides. If you look at it, cut back the steals but keep him fresh in the field and he'll still put up his usual numbers at the plate, that's good for the Mets. But saying he drops to 4th or 5th round is absurd, he's still top 20.

PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2005 8:17 pm
by acsguitar
SominaDei wrote:
RynMan wrote:
Dawgpound 1613 wrote:Outside of Reyes, no one on that team is stealing like they could be. To me, it seems like Willie has the red light on. I've tempered my SB expectations for all Mets unless something changes.


I think this is how you have to proceed at this point.


It really is, Randolph is a station to station manager. And again, Beltran's speed benefits the Mets the most in CF, not on the base paths. They just signed him to a huge deal, he's young, they don't want to run his wheels out from underhim and lose the whole ball of wax. Without those legs, he's worthless defensively and they drafted him for that skill just as much as anything else he provides. If you look at it, cut back the steals but keep him fresh in the field and he'll still put up his usual numbers at the plate, that's good for the Mets. But saying he drops to 4th or 5th round is absurd, he's still top 20.


Why is he top 20?
35 hr's .250 average 100 rbis? not top 20 to me not for outfielders

PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2005 8:18 pm
by RynMan
acsguitar wrote:
SominaDei wrote:
RynMan wrote:
Dawgpound 1613 wrote:Outside of Reyes, no one on that team is stealing like they could be. To me, it seems like Willie has the red light on. I've tempered my SB expectations for all Mets unless something changes.


I think this is how you have to proceed at this point.


It really is, Randolph is a station to station manager. And again, Beltran's speed benefits the Mets the most in CF, not on the base paths. They just signed him to a huge deal, he's young, they don't want to run his wheels out from underhim and lose the whole ball of wax. Without those legs, he's worthless defensively and they drafted him for that skill just as much as anything else he provides. If you look at it, cut back the steals but keep him fresh in the field and he'll still put up his usual numbers at the plate, that's good for the Mets. But saying he drops to 4th or 5th round is absurd, he's still top 20.


Why is he top 20?
35 hr's .250 average 100 rbis? not top 20 to me not for outfielders


35 HR's, .290, 110 rbis, 100-110 R, 20 SB.....top 20 for me.

PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2005 8:23 pm
by acsguitar
RynMan wrote:
acsguitar wrote:
SominaDei wrote:
RynMan wrote:
Dawgpound 1613 wrote:Outside of Reyes, no one on that team is stealing like they could be. To me, it seems like Willie has the red light on. I've tempered my SB expectations for all Mets unless something changes.


I think this is how you have to proceed at this point.


It really is, Randolph is a station to station manager. And again, Beltran's speed benefits the Mets the most in CF, not on the base paths. They just signed him to a huge deal, he's young, they don't want to run his wheels out from underhim and lose the whole ball of wax. Without those legs, he's worthless defensively and they drafted him for that skill just as much as anything else he provides. If you look at it, cut back the steals but keep him fresh in the field and he'll still put up his usual numbers at the plate, that's good for the Mets. But saying he drops to 4th or 5th round is absurd, he's still top 20.


Why is he top 20?
35 hr's .250 average 100 rbis? not top 20 to me not for outfielders


35 HR's, .290, 110 rbis, 100-110 R, 20 SB.....top 20 for me.


Right 20 is nice..but so far he has 1

PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2005 9:02 pm
by revenge_of_the_cards
even if he doesnt get 20 sb. hes still a rich mans Carlos Lee. id take him 2nd round without the steals. .250??? where the hell did u get that from, the guy has been all over hte place on his avg, but in shea look for him to find gaps he has been doing that. hes up at .300 right now, hell prolly stay within .15 of that. 35 hr 115 runs 110 rbi is accurate.

PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2005 9:12 pm
by RynMan
Yeah, acs. I think that 20 should be a lock though. He will just go on a tear one week.