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Postby El Guapo » Wed Jun 08, 2005 5:54 pm

I thought I remember seeing a thread on this, but couldn't find it. Now that Utley is the full time starter, who do you guys like better for the rest of the year?
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Postby zhutou » Wed Jun 08, 2005 5:56 pm

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Postby FlawedReasoning » Wed Jun 08, 2005 5:57 pm

Definitely Utley. Wish I could get him. :-/
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Postby bronxxbomber » Wed Jun 08, 2005 6:01 pm

i'm going to repeat what everyone is saying. you have to go with utley especially since he'll have a fulltime gig.
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Postby El Guapo » Wed Jun 08, 2005 6:06 pm

Would there be any legitimacy to the argument that since Chase will now be facing lefties, his AVG and OPS may drop...making his numbers seem slightly less impressive?
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Postby acsguitar » Wed Jun 08, 2005 6:08 pm

El Guapo wrote:Would there be any legitimacy to the argument that since Chase will now be facing lefties, his AVG and OPS may drop...making his numbers seem slightly less impressive?


I think its a good argument..I'm going with Lopez
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Postby beltrans_boy » Wed Jun 08, 2005 6:51 pm

acsguitar wrote:
El Guapo wrote:Would there be any legitimacy to the argument that since Chase will now be facing lefties, his AVG and OPS may drop...making his numbers seem slightly less impressive?


I think its a good argument..I'm going with Lopez


It's a decent argument that his AVG, OPS, OBP and SLG might take a hit. I don't think his value goes down since, of course, you could just bench him when he faces lefties and you're back to sqaure one.

There aren't many LHP as it is, so the drop in those 4 categories shouldn't be too extreme. Who knows if he'll get better hitting LHP when he gets more ABs? The only way to learn is through trial and error. Don't expect exceptional numbers, but his LHP splits should improve a little given the added PT.

Fact is, Utley's HRs, RBI and Runs are what make him so valuable, and those can only go up now that he has a full-time gig. Is he going to hit .300 from now until the end of the season? No, but with those kind of power numbers, how many 2b can? The power stats put him in very elite company.

To answer your question, Utley is the better option from here on out. Utley was a border-line 2b stud before the trade, and now he's a top two bagger. Lopez is decent, but Utley is the man in Philly right now.
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Postby El Guapo » Wed Jun 08, 2005 6:56 pm

beltrans_boy wrote:
acsguitar wrote:
El Guapo wrote:Would there be any legitimacy to the argument that since Chase will now be facing lefties, his AVG and OPS may drop...making his numbers seem slightly less impressive?


I think its a good argument..I'm going with Lopez


It's a decent argument that his AVG, OPS, OBP and SLG might take a hit. I don't think his value goes down since, of course, you could just bench him when he faces lefties and you're back to sqaure one.

There aren't many LHP as it is, so the drop in those 4 categories shouldn't be too extreme. Who knows if he'll get better hitting LHP when he gets more ABs? The only way to learn is through trial and error. Don't expect exceptional numbers, but his LHP splits should improve a little given the added PT.

Fact is, Utley's HRs, RBI and Runs are what make him so valuable, and those can only go up now that he has a full-time gig. Is he going to hit .300 from now until the end of the season? No, but with those kind of power numbers, how many 2b can? The power stats put him in very elite company.

To answer your question, Utley is the better option from here on out. Utley was a border-line 2b stud before the trade, and now he's a top two bagger. Lopez is decent, but Utley is the man in Philly right now.


That's why I pay you guys the big bucks, thanks for all the responses guys!
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Postby ilsa » Wed Jun 08, 2005 7:00 pm

El Guapo wrote:Would there be any legitimacy to the argument that since Chase will now be facing lefties, his AVG and OPS may drop...making his numbers seem slightly less impressive?


Yes, he's only batting .125 against lefties this year, so that is a very legit concern.
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Postby rmeesig » Wed Jun 08, 2005 7:01 pm

acsguitar wrote:
El Guapo wrote:Would there be any legitimacy to the argument that since Chase will now be facing lefties, his AVG and OPS may drop...making his numbers seem slightly less impressive?


I think its a good argument..I'm going with Lopez


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