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Good 2nd half pitchers this year?

Postby warrick95 » Wed Jun 18, 2003 2:36 pm

Why don't we make a list. I'd say:

Maddux
Miller
Schmidt
Colon
Beckett
Schilling
Johnson
Clement

I'm not sure about the following guys, but popular thought would think the should: Oswalt, Od. Perez, Lowe.
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Postby jdh » Wed Jun 18, 2003 3:02 pm

Maddux should have a decent second half, but I think he is on a slow decline and will have periods of inconsistency. He isn't a top 15 pitcher anymore. Miller should absolutely tear it up second half; career he has a 4.65 ERA pre all star game, and 3.36 ERA post all star break. He also had a worse record and ERA at this point last year than he has now.

Schmidt, I'm not so sure of. He has never won more than 13 games in a season, and has a history of serious arm troubles. His work load so far this year has also been excessive, so don't be surprised if his strikeouts decrease and ERA goes up. Colon should be solid; he has been solid this year really just somewhat unlucky. He won't repeat 2002, but will have an ERA under 4.00 and 15 wins.

Beckett could have a monstrous second half depending on his elbow health. He's not a sure thing. Schilling and Johnson depend on how well they recover and how soon they come back. If their injuries drag into August, they might only get 6 or 7 starts. They'll be great for h2h playoffs if they come back but in roto leagues, probably won't have much impact.
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Postby warrick95 » Wed Jun 18, 2003 3:05 pm

Hey jd, since you're a Cards fan, do you have the scoop on Matt Morris? He's been pitching very high PCs and hasn't been handled all that well IMO. Is his injury something that's gonna affect him for a while and if so, would it be wise to just deal him now?
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Postby jdh » Wed Jun 18, 2003 3:10 pm

I am a Cards fans, but living in Canada don't get to see many Cards games on TV, and actually wind up watching more Jays games than anything.

The last report on Morris is that he is absolutely fine to pitch on Friday. He claims that the shoulder knot was caused by him slacking off on his running and workout routines between starts because he felt so good this year. I agree that La Russa has been really overdoing his pitch counts, and alot of that is because the Cards bullpen is beyond a disaster and he needs to get the most he can out of Morris. Now that Isringhausen is back, I would think that they would cut back on Morris's workload, especially given his shoulder problems so I think he will be fine.

However, trading him isn't a terrible idea but I wouldn't recommend doing it unless you can get full value and a starter of comparable calibre in return. He is a top 10 starter, so if you can get one of the Oakland big three, Millwood, etc for him do it, otherwise I'd hold off.
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Postby warrick95 » Wed Jun 18, 2003 3:12 pm

Thanks, JD. I proposed an offer for Mark Mulder. Hope it goes through :)
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Postby pilambp » Wed Jun 18, 2003 3:27 pm

Don't forget Cory Lidle! Here's some of his lifetime stats:

April 4-6, 5.16 ERA
May 8-7, 4.42 ERA
June 4-6, 5.77 ERA
<B>July 6-4, 3.74 ERA
August 11-2, 2.32 ERA
September 8-3, 3.22 ERA</B>
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Postby jay » Wed Jun 18, 2003 4:11 pm

How about some possible callups?
Rich Harden A's
Aaron Heilman NYM
Francis Beltran Cubs
Ryan Vogelsong Pit
Rafael Soriano Sea
Justin Duchscherer A's
Zack Greinke...the next Greg Maddux. LOOK IT UP!
For what it's worth.
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