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Postby BronXBombers51 » Sun Jan 08, 2006 1:22 pm

stevethumb wrote:this team belongs in a pasture somewhere...

C ivan rodriquez
1B jbagwell
2B mloretta
3B vcastilla
SS jvizcaino
OF ssosa
OF bwilliams
Of sfinley
UT rpalmeiro/twomack

SP Kbrown
SP ollie perez
SP Russ ortiz
SP jsmoltz
SP rfranklin

tworrell/tpercival


Smoltz?!? You'll have to explain that one.

And I wouldn't have Loretta on there either, as I expect a comeback year for him. The rest looks ok though.
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Postby Another Blown Save » Sun Jan 08, 2006 1:32 pm

C: Jason Kendall
1B: Kevin Millar
2B: Brett Boone
3B: Michael Cuddyer
SS: Omar Infante
OF: Lew Ford
OF: Steve Finley
OF: Richard Hidalgo
SP: Jaret Wright
RP: Troy Percival
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Postby AcidRock23 » Sun Jan 08, 2006 1:34 pm

I wouldn't see Loretta as quite ready for the knackers but I have little interest in him as I think being a .300 hitter makes him overvalued in drafts/ auctions. He IS better than a lot of guys but not better to justify picking him 4 or 5 rounds before some of the scrubby 2B options out there. Or even 10 rounds.

Similarly, Smoltz had a great year last year but the age intangible and medical file is too thick to pick for my taste , largely b/c I'd anticipate somebody will go for him pretty early, based solely on 'the name' and the numbers.
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Postby Brainstorm » Sun Jan 08, 2006 2:04 pm

Another Blown Save wrote:C: Jason Kendall
1B: Kevin Millar
2B: Brett Boone
3B: Michael Cuddyer
SS: Omar Infante
OF: Lew Ford
OF: Steve Finley
OF: Richard Hidalgo
SP: Jaret Wright
RP: Troy Percival


This is a pretty solid list IMO

Also Sosa like everyone else is saying, Mike Cameron(his power numbers will suffer in that huge ballpark, although I know Shea wasn't much better), Adam Eaton and Vincente Padilla, Tim Wakefield, Ted Lilly, and Trot Nixon are all on my list
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Postby wkelly91 » Sun Jan 08, 2006 2:54 pm

kentx12 wrote:
revenge_of_the_cards wrote:Beltre, Sosa, Thome, C Patterson, K Matsui, Hinske just to name a few.



Wow, im suprised you are saying to avoid Thome. I have him as one of my biggest draft day must gets. I believe he can be had real late in most drafts and can easily get you 30 to 35 hr's and 100 rbi's.


Thome in 2006 Mock drafts:

Pre-trade: 171

Post trade: 63, 70, 100

I don't see him dropping too far....If anything he will go too early and end up being over-valued :~(
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Postby stevethumb » Sun Jan 08, 2006 5:12 pm

BronXBombers51 wrote:
stevethumb wrote:this team belongs in a pasture somewhere...

C ivan rodriquez
1B jbagwell
2B mloretta
3B vcastilla
SS jvizcaino
OF ssosa
OF bwilliams
Of sfinley
UT rpalmeiro/twomack

SP Kbrown
SP ollie perez
SP Russ ortiz
SP jsmoltz
SP rfranklin

tworrell/tpercival


Smoltz?!? You'll have to explain that one.

And I wouldn't have Loretta on there either, as I expect a comeback year for him. The rest looks ok though.
...it is based on the notion that rarely (baseball notebook had the #s) does a pitcher who increases his workload as dramatically as a pitcher like jsmoltz and jpatterson follow up the next season w/much success...i believe the theory was showcased w/odalis perez who went from 118 IP in 01 to 222 IP in 02..although his 02 season was extraordinary he fell off precipitously in 03..smoltz went from 81 IP to 229 IP and had sept arm ailments and is 39 yo..beware
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Postby AKhomebrewer » Tue Jan 10, 2006 3:40 am

I'm pasturizing every pitcher who just signed with/was traded to Texas this offseason.

Also, no intent to pile on, but a note on Bagwell: he's not 'coming off' an injury in the traditional sense. He's had a degenerative arthritic condition in the shoulder for several years now (see: Jackson, Bo with his hip). The surgery last season was an attempt to fend off the inevitable, but I don't see Bagwell on a Major-League roster by late summer.
• Aaron Hill: Avoids DL Jul 12 (RotoWire)
• Aaron Hill: Headed for DL Jul 12 (RotoWire)
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