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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:09 am
by quietstorm
shortsavage wrote:I think comparative rankings can be much more powerful than projections.
Comparative rankings are based on estimated projections in your mind. ;)

PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:14 am
by shortsavage
quietstorm wrote:
shortsavage wrote:I think comparative rankings can be much more powerful than projections.
Comparative rankings are based on estimated projections in your mind. ;)


But putting fluffy numbers next to your favorite names is easy to do with projections. I think it is easier to be objective when accounting for numerous variables to rank players.

Perhaps the definition of projections needs to be made clearer.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:15 am
by quietstorm
Projections = objective. Predictions = subjective.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:51 am
by GotowarMissAgnes
shortsavage wrote:I think comparative rankings can be much more powerful than projections.


The problem I see with rankings is that you can't see where you stand in various categories in roto. Projections allow you to track how your team stands with respect to team projections of HRs, SBs, etc. I use this to compare to levels I know I need to achieve to be competitive. With rankings, I can end up with a team that wins HRs by 100 dingers, but finishes next to last in three other cats because I wasn't paying attention to how the players fit together.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:43 am
by chadlincoln
I make my own. Usually takes me a month.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:47 am
by J35J
chadlincoln wrote:I make my own. Usually takes me a month.


I was beginning to think that I was the only one!!! It usually takes me a month or so as well!

Not big on letting someone else do the projections/predictions/rankings for me or letting some mathematical equations rank my guys for me, thats not very much fun? :-? I like to GM and make all the decisions for my team, not someone else or some mathematical equation? !+)


Jason

PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 12:24 pm
by looptid
For $10 you can get the 2005 projections from Baseball Info Solutions, as another alternative to the PETCOA stuff at BP. Those same projections are in the 2006 Bill James Handbook, but you wouldn't have to go through the bother of entering them all into a spreadsheet or database.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 1:36 pm
by Iconoclastic
Isn't making your own projections a big part of the fun in fantasy baseball? I mean why draft according to what someone else's gut is telling them rather than your own?

I keep a document year round where I make fantasy baseball related notes and then a month before the draft starts I project and then rank them according to tier. I've been doing this for 7 years and I tweak the method every now and then.

Unless you're a professional fantasy baseball player, shelling out money to get someone else's input that you can get for free while taking the fun out of drafting doesn't seem good to me.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 2:50 pm
by quietstorm
Projections don't take the fun out of drafting. My fun comes from seeing how I can get players far later than they're really worth in the draft. Drafting Adam Dunn in the fourth or fifth round? That's fun. If you rely exclusively on somebody else's projections, yes, you're taking the fun out of it. But you're also going to lose, because you're not accounting for the fluid nature of a draft, so you're just overpaying for everybody.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 2:54 pm
by RAmst23
I mix other's rankings what i believe and who I perceive will do better/worse this year. Doesn't get more scientific than that ;-)

Using other's rankings is fine, but I tweak them usually to determine whether I draft a player or let the guy go.