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Postby Mercer Boy » Wed Jan 11, 2006 4:26 am

Oops...shows you how much I pay attention to baseball in the offseason (outside of the Pirates) . :-/ O:-)

Well, whoever is setting up for Cleveland may be good for this year. Riske? Probabaly risky. :-b
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Postby crapshooter » Wed Jan 11, 2006 8:13 am

I agree Shields was great last year for the first half of the season anyway. This year I look for Farnsworth to do good with that offense he should pick up quite a few wins.
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Postby mikhayl » Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:40 am

Shields and Madson are money. I also think Rincon had an off year and will rebound big time (wins are still hard to predict from RP though, and I like Qualls to improve bigtime from a very strong sophomore season.

Duaner Sanchez should also get a lot of hold opportunities for the Mets and more casual fantasy players may not realize he was traded and has a new role for a good team. Sanchez becomes the main RHP RP and even more valuable if Heilman moves out of the pen
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Postby chris8 » Wed Jan 11, 2006 12:29 pm

I expect Ayala to do well this year, now he's signed with the Nationals.
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Postby Niffoc4 » Wed Jan 11, 2006 12:46 pm

Something I like to do in a league that counts holds is get the set-up man for my closer... for example, I have Chad Cordero, so in my draft I will be targeting Ayala... he will get me holds, and if Cordero goes down he will be getting the saves for the Nats as well... Like others have been saying, holds is a tough stat to predict, and if you looked at the yearly leaders its not the same guys each year...
Another thing to think about is the main relievers for St. louis... LaRussa uses a lot of relievers based on matchups so this facilitates pitchers getting a lot of holds, since they only face one batter... that means I would bump up both rincon and looper in the rankings, because LaRussa will use them in advantageous matchups and not use them i weaker ones...
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Postby lostraven » Wed Jan 11, 2006 12:51 pm

Niffoc4 wrote:LaRussa uses a lot of relievers based on matchups so this facilitates pitchers getting a lot of holds, since they only face one batter... that means I would bump up both rincon and looper in the rankings, because LaRussa will use them in advantageous matchups and not use them i weaker ones...


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Good call on this. I definitely have Looper up to mid-tier on the
holds cat'. I hadn't considered Rincon though.

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Postby Pokeyouindaeye » Wed Jan 11, 2006 4:06 pm

I think if Dotel can pitch this year, he'll be good.
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Postby GotowarMissAgnes » Wed Jan 11, 2006 5:38 pm

lostraven wrote:
Niffoc4 wrote:LaRussa uses a lot of relievers based on matchups so this facilitates pitchers getting a lot of holds, since they only face one batter... that means I would bump up both rincon and looper in the rankings, because LaRussa will use them in advantageous matchups and not use them i weaker ones...


;-D

Good call on this. I definitely have Looper up to mid-tier on the
holds cat'. I hadn't considered Rincon though.

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If you look in Bill James' Handbook he gives you information on the number of pitching changes different managers make, a reasonable idea of the holds opportunities in a team.
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Postby Niffoc4 » Thu Jan 12, 2006 9:39 am

sounds like that would be a good stat to know... who else had a high number last year... just looking at holds numbers I would imagine Eric Wedge's managing of the Indians probably had a lot...
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Postby j_d_mcnugent » Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:08 am

lostraven wrote:
Niffoc4 wrote:LaRussa uses a lot of relievers based on matchups so this facilitates pitchers getting a lot of holds, since they only face one batter... that means I would bump up both rincon and looper in the rankings, because LaRussa will use them in advantageous matchups and not use them i weaker ones...


;-D

Good call on this. I definitely have Looper up to mid-tier on the
holds cat'. I hadn't considered Rincon though.

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i also have looper in the mid tier. larussa will likely limit his appearances vs. lefties which should result in solid era and whip. unfortunately his k/9 is pretty average.

i am not crazy about rincon though. i think flores will be the top lefty out of the pen for the cards.
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