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Postby Mookie4ever » Thu Jan 12, 2006 10:26 pm

Wow - tied for 7th in RBI among ML catchers last year and he is the undisputed starter in a revamped Jays lineup and Greg Zaun does not make the top 30?
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Postby Pogotheostrich » Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:24 am

Mookie4ever wrote:Wow - tied for 7th in RBI among ML catchers last year and he is the undisputed starter in a revamped Jays lineup and Greg Zaun does not make the top 30?
The 29 R, 5 HR, 26 RBI, .224 BA post-All Star game might have a lot to do with that.

I'm wondering why John Buck is #17?
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Postby logan » Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:04 am

shortsavage wrote:
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BigLebowski wrote:Looks to me like AJ is gonna fall again this year. Works for me. ;-D


yeah i'm not quite sure i get why he is ranked so low on some of the lists. he isn't spectacular but he is a solid option at catcher with a team thet should drive in more runs top t bottom this year.


AJ got positive reinforcement from the Sox to the tune of an average of $5 million a year for hitting .257.

Viable fantasy catchers don't hit .257. $5 million a year positive reinforcement is for top tier catchers. Pierzynski is neither viable or top tier.


so he hits .250 one time when joining a new team and you ignore the fact that he has hit .270 or above for the 4 years previous? (.288,.300,.312,.271) and his three year avg is .294. he had a carrer high in homers and his second highest total in runs.no he most likely hit his ceiling in homers but the chances he gets nore rbi's with the people in fornt of him is pretty good considering the trend shows his is not a .250 hitter.

if viable catchers don't hit .257 then why is posada any more viable than AJ as he hit .260 last year? apparently it isn't all about the avg if that's the case as you have him ranked 4.


as i said he isn't some spectacular name (ala posada) but he will be solid and viable this year.will he hit .300? probably not. will he hit around .280? definitely.
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Postby danleroi22 » Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:09 am

Where do you all project Piazza in the draft? 6th round?
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Postby Pogotheostrich » Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:19 pm

danleroi22 wrote:Where do you all project Piazza in the draft? 6th round?
Much, much lower. I think 10th round would be the very earliest.
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Postby dcskater619 » Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:30 pm

no doubt barrett has to be top 10 this year. he won the silver slugger award last year (he was the best catcher in the NL) and this year his power numbers should be up with guys like pierre, walker, lee, ramirez ahead of him.
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Postby BritSox » Fri Jan 13, 2006 1:07 pm

Is it a cert that Piazza gets signed to DH anywhere though? There's not that many slots available, MIN have filled theirs, and the Big Hurt's still out there as well.
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Postby wkelly91 » Fri Jan 13, 2006 7:58 pm

-Kenji Johjima

No one is saying anything about this latest Japanese import, yet he is placed relatively high on most lists. Frankly I will avoid him after the Kaz Matsui disaster. Even H.Matsui took a year to adjust to MLB hitting.

Why the love fest?
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Postby GotowarMissAgnes » Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:40 pm

wrveres wrote:1 Martinez, Victor 1.27
2 Mauer, Joe 2.64
3 Varitek, Jason 4.70
4 Lopez, Javy 5.10
5 Hernandez, Ramon 5.33
6 Rodriguez, Ivan 6.00
7 Posada, Jorge 7.11
8 Barrett, Michael 7.38
9 Pierzynski, A.J. 10.13
10 Johjima, Kenji 10.20
11 Molina, Bengie 11.00
12 Kendall, Jason 11.17
13 Piazza, Mike 12.00
14 McCann, Brian 12.17
15 Lieberthal, Mike 13.33
16 Barajas, Rod 13.67
17 Buck, John 15.00
18 LaRue, Jason 16.00
19 LoDuca, Paul 16.00
20 Estrada, Johnny 17.00
21 Doumit, Ryan 22.00
22 Hall, Toby 22.00
23 Molina, Yadier 24.00
24 Schneider, Brian 24.50
25 Cota, Humberto 25.00
26 Olivo, Miguel 26.50
27 Torrealba, Yorvit 27.50
28 Miller, Damian 28.50
29 Navarro, Dioner 29.00
30 Willingham, Josh 29.00


In general, Kendall, McCann, Barajas, and Buck are being overrated. Willingham, Doumit, Larue/Valentin.

The latter two, in 580 ABs batted .270 with 28 HRs 76 R and 110 RBIs. Compare that to VMart who in 547 ABsbatted .305 with 20HRs, 73R and 80 RBIs.

If Willingham gets 500+ ABs, he's good for a .270 average, 20-25 HRs, and 75 runs/rbis, as well as 7-12 SBs. In keeper leagues, his value's less, since he'll lose catcher eligibility this year, maybe.
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Postby shortsavage » Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:01 pm

Willingham and Doumit aren't guaranteed enough at bats to be top 15 catchers on my list.

Why should they be considered top catching options, if they do not get say 450 at bats?

Or why should they be considered locks for 450 at bats?
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