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Postby Apollo » Fri Apr 14, 2006 6:23 pm

Just to clarify (it was mentioned above), but Palmeiro WAS investigated. Since he was caught after testifying, it could not be proved he was lying at the time. So investigating Bonds is fairly consistent with past policy.
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Postby chadlincoln » Fri Apr 14, 2006 7:01 pm

Dr. Duran Duran wrote:If found guilty, I think he should be forced to wash Jeff Kent's truck everyday for the rest of his life.
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Postby SHOCKandAWE » Fri Apr 14, 2006 7:48 pm

The part that confuses me is how people can continue to stick up and defend him when all the signs point to him taking roids.
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Postby BronXBombers51 » Fri Apr 14, 2006 7:54 pm

SHOCKandAWE wrote:The part that confuses me is how people can continue to stick up and defend him when all the signs point to him taking roids.


The signs point to several other people taking roids too, but they don't get treated like Barry. Hell, people who have been proven to have taken roids don't get the same crap that Barry gets.

Aaron and Mays had allegedly used performance enhancing drugs and Ruth has allegedly used illeagal bats. Do they get torn to shreds like Bonds does?

Bonds is not the only person to use performance enhancing drugs in the MLB. Do I believe he used these drugs? Yes. But I know that the MLB isn't, as HOOTIE calls it, a "saintly church". Bonds is not ruining baseball. It is not clean, never has been. People hating Bonds over this is stupid. He takes way too much crap for something that countless numbers of people have done.
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Postby Lofunzo » Fri Apr 14, 2006 8:02 pm

BronXBombers51 wrote:
SHOCKandAWE wrote:The part that confuses me is how people can continue to stick up and defend him when all the signs point to him taking roids.


The signs point to several other people taking roids too, but they don't get treated like Barry. Hell, people who have been proven to have taken roids don't get the same crap that Barry gets.

Aaron and Mays had allegedly used performance enhancing drugs and Ruth has allegedly used illeagal bats. Do they get torn to shreds like Bonds does?

Bonds is not the only person to use performance enhancing drugs in the MLB. Do I believe he used these drugs? Yes. But I know that the MLB isn't, as HOOTIE calls it, a "saintly church". Bonds is not ruining baseball. It is not clean, never has been. People hating Bonds over this is stupid. He takes way too much crap for something that countless numbers of people have done.


I am not here to talk about the past. ;-7 :-D
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Postby SHOCKandAWE » Fri Apr 14, 2006 8:08 pm

BronXBombers51 wrote:
SHOCKandAWE wrote:The part that confuses me is how people can continue to stick up and defend him when all the signs point to him taking roids.


The signs point to several other people taking roids too, but they don't get treated like Barry. Hell, people who have been proven to have taken roids don't get the same crap that Barry gets.

Aaron and Mays had allegedly used performance enhancing drugs and Ruth has allegedly used illeagal bats. Do they get torn to shreds like Bonds does?

Bonds is not the only person to use performance enhancing drugs in the MLB. Do I believe he used these drugs? Yes. But I know that the MLB isn't, as HOOTIE calls it, a "saintly church". Bonds is not ruining baseball. It is not clean, never has been. People hating Bonds over this is stupid. He takes way too much crap for something that countless numbers of people have done.


No need to get defensive. For the record i have no respect for anyone who uses roids in baseball. My favroite player could admit to using roids and i would feel the same way as i do to Barry. For me it is about what he does that defines his character. Sure he is a good baseball player but doesnt mean I have to like him....or anyone for that matter that needs to take enhancing drugs to perform better.

I am sure that Viagra isnt the only performance enhancing drug that palmiero took. Same with Canseco, and anyone else that went in front of congress.

Also notice that I never said that he was ruining baseball. In fact I am sure they reason people hate bonds has more to do with his personality than if he took drugs or not. I got to see Bonds interact with the media and people when he was here in pittsburgh and lets just say that he wasnt the most friendly person when it came to fans. Back then he was a nobody and still felt as if he was higher than anyone around him.
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Postby Lofunzo » Fri Apr 14, 2006 9:28 pm

BronXBombers51 wrote:
SHOCKandAWE wrote:The part that confuses me is how people can continue to stick up and defend him when all the signs point to him taking roids.


The signs point to several other people taking roids too, but they don't get treated like Barry. Hell, people who have been proven to have taken roids don't get the same crap that Barry gets.

Aaron and Mays had allegedly used performance enhancing drugs and Ruth has allegedly used illeagal bats. Do they get torn to shreds like Bonds does?

Bonds is not the only person to use performance enhancing drugs in the MLB. Do I believe he used these drugs? Yes. But I know that the MLB isn't, as HOOTIE calls it, a "saintly church". Bonds is not ruining baseball. It is not clean, never has been. People hating Bonds over this is stupid. He takes way too much crap for something that countless numbers of people have done.


This is the major problem that I have with most Bonds supporters. They always say "but what about Sheffield?? What about Palmeiro??" My response is "Who cares"?? If Bonds is found to have used steroids and if he is found to have lied to the grand jury, he should be punished. It would be nice if they hammered all of them but 1 or all of the guilty parties should be dealt with. I don't care if they deal with them 1 by 1 or all at once. The guilty parties should be dealt with accordingly, though.
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Postby SHOCKandAWE » Fri Apr 14, 2006 9:40 pm

nuggets wrote:
Lofunzo wrote:This is the major problem that I have with most Bonds supporters. They always say "but what about Sheffield?? What about Palmeiro??" My response is "Who cares"?? If Bonds is found to have used steroids and if he is found to have lied to the grand jury, he should be punished. It would be nice if they hammered all of them but 1 or all of the guilty parties should be dealt with. I don't care if they deal with them 1 by 1 or all at once. The guilty parties should be dealt with accordingly, though.


What if Bonds only used when they weren't illegal in baseball?


Still doesnt make it right and still doesnt earn my respect.

There are many things in this world that are legal but not ethical.
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Postby Lofunzo » Fri Apr 14, 2006 9:43 pm

SHOCKandAWE wrote:
nuggets wrote:
Lofunzo wrote:This is the major problem that I have with most Bonds supporters. They always say "but what about Sheffield?? What about Palmeiro??" My response is "Who cares"?? If Bonds is found to have used steroids and if he is found to have lied to the grand jury, he should be punished. It would be nice if they hammered all of them but 1 or all of the guilty parties should be dealt with. I don't care if they deal with them 1 by 1 or all at once. The guilty parties should be dealt with accordingly, though.


What if Bonds only used when they weren't illegal in baseball?


Still doesnt make it right and still doesnt earn my respect.

There are many things in this world that are legal but not ethical.


Agreed and, if it's no big deal, why potentially perjure yourself?? Just go up and say that you did something that wasn't illegal in baseball. ;-)
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