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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 2:55 pm
by acsguitar
LiveForever wrote:
acsguitar wrote:That would be a terrible trade for the mets


Thats never stopped them before. See: Zambrano for Kazmir :-D


Oh yea good ole Victor Z...yea that was horrible

PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 3:01 pm
by Matthias
Mookie4ever wrote:
slomo007 wrote:I like both players actually, but I agree Wright is more valuable than Willis. But, I don't think it's by such a longshot that many here apparently believe.

I guess Florida's plan would have been to move Miggy back to the OF?


Here is the main issue for Florida:

2006 Willis $4,350,000
2006 David Wright $374,000

I think that Dontrelle is elligible for free agency at the end of this year and Wright has a couple more seasons to go - but I'm not sure of the dates. Anyone know for sure?


2010. And I think D-Train is a free agent at 2008.

And unless Wright goes out and pulls a John Rocker or something (not that there's anything to suggest that he will, just saying) the Mets won't let him go for anything. Honestly, I can't think of a single player in the majors who they'd probably do a straight-up for Wright right now. You can talk about .300 hitters and what not, but baseball is also a business. And the Mets have made some inroads in the New York market the past couple of years by signing big-name free agents. But nothing really energizes a fan base as much as having a rookie of your own come out and blossom. And with Wright's charisma and good looks (and current low pay), who are you going to replace with?

The article I read quoted someone from the Mets saying they see Wright as being the Mets' Jeter. They want his face to be the franchise for the next decade (and are apparently already in long-term contract negotiations of some stage). So I'm sure there's some sort of limitation on it (i.e. it would be pretty tough for them to pass on Manny AND Ortiz if the Sox ate all the salary for Wright) but I can't see Wright being worth more to anyone other than the Mets, which makes him being dealt a zero probability situation, if that makes any sense.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 3:05 pm
by Matthias
Here's the original article.

http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/ ... -headlines

And correction: D-Train is eligible to be a free agent AFTER the 2008 season.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 3:06 pm
by Phatferd
If I had a say, which I don't, but I would give up Dallas McPherson, Jared Weaver and Aybar for Willis.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 3:14 pm
by converge241
Willis aint coming to boston

would love to see it but not happening

Rotoworld suggested reyes for willis for whatever salt that is worth


any team could have had willis or cabrera at least in the offseason they made it known that everyone is available

PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 3:18 pm
by Thursday
There's no way the Mets should ever, ever give up Wright, just like in a keeper league. Just ought to know better.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 3:23 pm
by FalcoAtL
converge241 wrote:Willis aint coming to boston

would love to see it but not happening

Rotoworld suggested reyes for willis for whatever salt that is worth


any team could have had willis or cabrera at least in the offseason they made it known that everyone is available



Uhhh... They specifically said that MCab and Dtrain are the corner stones of the franchise. ESPN recently just had an article come out that said they won't be bad for very long because of all of the great trades they made. Petit, Ramirez, and they also picked up Uggla in the Rule 5 draft from the Dbacks. They're set for the long run no doubt. There is no reason to throw away any future they have bvy trading away those two.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 3:24 pm
by teddy ballgame
converge241 wrote:Willis aint coming to boston

would love to see it but not happening

Rotoworld suggested reyes for willis for whatever salt that is worth


any team could have had willis or cabrera at least in the offseason they made it known that everyone is available

They certainly have the means necessary to get him. Hansen and Delcarmen can't both be closers of the future. Jon Lester is another possibility.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 3:32 pm
by roninmedia
Willis and Cabrera are both eligible for free agency AFTER the 2009 season. Both players do not have long term contracts so their salaries will continue to increase each and every year with arbitration. Cabrera will expected to get a raise for 470k to 6 million next year. Thats cheap from larger ballclub's perspectives, but its expensive for the fish.


But think about it this way, Miggy was signed by an undrafted free agent by the Marlins in 1999. I wonder why GM is shooting themselves right now.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 3:55 pm
by Xtreemes
FalcoAtL wrote:
converge241 wrote:Willis aint coming to boston

would love to see it but not happening

Rotoworld suggested reyes for willis for whatever salt that is worth


any team could have had willis or cabrera at least in the offseason they made it known that everyone is available



Uhhh... They specifically said that MCab and Dtrain are the corner stones of the franchise. ESPN recently just had an article come out that said they won't be bad for very long because of all of the great trades they made. Petit, Ramirez, and they also picked up Uggla in the Rule 5 draft from the Dbacks. They're set for the long run no doubt. There is no reason to throw away any future they have bvy trading away those two.


The Marlins are saying publicly that they wont trade either one, but most sportswriters and people from other teams are saying they except Willis to be traded by the offseason at latest. The Marlins just don't want to spend money on anyone.