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The Official Felix Hernandez may be a bust thread.

PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 7:04 pm
by TheYanks04
Let's have at it. This guy had another crummy outting today and is not showing much. At what point do owners in non-keepers start to think about calling this guy a bust and moving on?

PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 7:05 pm
by great gretzky
i think bust is harsh. the sox are a good offensive club, felix got some k's, and he hasn't even played a full season of ball.

PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 7:08 pm
by The Miner Part 2
ill buy low on this kid in a heartbeat, in any type of league. and i definetly wouldnt sell low. way to much upside.

he's got filthy stuff, just needs to work on his control.

once the weather warms up i think we'll be seeing a different King.

PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 7:11 pm
by TheYanks04
Maybe so. But if he did not have the hype, he would have been cut in almost every league by now. The only thing keeping him on fantasy rosters is his name and the hype that goes with it.

He has pitched well in only 2 of 6 outtings. He is giving up way too many hits andhe has not gotten past the 5th inning in all but one of his starts

PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 7:11 pm
by Yoda
He clearly wasn't ready for this. I think they rushed him a bit in 05 and had everyone excited based on his potential. There is a chance he'll figure it all out but it may take longer than expected. He may be a bust for 06 considering everyone and his monther (except me) had him as a top 10 SP. But not if you are in a keeper league.

PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 7:12 pm
by laxguy8947
He was certainly waaaay over hyped this year and if you relied on him as one of your top couple pitchers you got screwed.

That said I still wouldn't drop him. What he did last year cant be ignored. 19 years old, 85 innings, and an ERA of 2.67??

So far this year his walks and HRs are up. Especially HRs. He gave up 5 last year, and already has 5 this year. The stuff is still there though. His strike out clip has actually increased.

PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 7:15 pm
by bdrotoronto
The kid is 20 years old on a mediocre team. I think 'bust' might be a bit harsh, if only because the pre-season expections for him were WAY too inflated to begin with. If he is measured against the expectations for a top-10 pitcher, then of course his numbers will be considered disappointing. However, the numbers he's put up are really not so far off from what could have realistically been expected from someone in his situation.

PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 7:21 pm
by great gretzky
hype is hype, true.

But the hype exists for a reason.

Saying "if he wasn't hyped" is a little silly, because in his case, he was hyped for good reason.

He is still getting lots of k's. For me, I have him as my fifth starter, I'll carry the ratios for a bit.

PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 7:23 pm
by The Miner Part 2
great gretzky wrote:hype is hype, true.

But the hype exists for a reason.

Saying "if he wasn't hyped" is a little silly, because in his case, he was hyped for good reason.

He is still getting lots of k's. For me, I have him as my fifth starter, I'll carry the ratios for a bit.


nice post.

PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 7:24 pm
by TheYanks04
bdrotoronto wrote:The kid is 20 years old on a mediocre team. I think 'bust' might be a bit harsh, if only because the pre-season expections for him were WAY too inflated to begin with. If he is measured against the expectations for a top-10 pitcher, then of course his numbers will be considered disappointing. However, the numbers he's put up are really not so far off from what could have realistically been expected from someone in his situation.


How so? He currently is sporting a fine looking 6.0 ERA and 1.6+ WHIP. That blows by any standard for a MLB pitcher, rookie phenom or not.