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Postby mweir145 » Wed May 10, 2006 6:59 pm

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Iconoclastic wrote:See my signature. Bay was overrated going into this year and should have gone much later than he was taken. Lucky batting average last year and at his age last season might be his ceiling.


At his age....that was his ceiling? At 27 or 28? So, I guess that's it for Bay. He should just retire at 28 since he can't do better than last year. Thanks for the laugh. ;-D


Well, pitchers are actually paying attention to him when he's on base, and the SB's magically disappeared. You hasn't even attempted a SB for the better part of a month.

When you don't run, don't hit HR's, and fail miserably with men on base, you're not an elite outfielder. Period.

He's still worth owning, but he doesn't deserve to be considered in the Beltran/Sizemore/Wells class of outfielders. More like a Matt Holliday-type.

When did Wells become such a valuable player? For the better part of 2 seasons, he really did nothing better than a #2 OF fantasy-wise. Did 1 hot month suddenly change his value that much? We'll see how it goes the rest of the year..
As for Sizemore, I personally don't think the guy has enough power to be worth more than Bay. Sure he can steal 20, but so can Bay.

IMO, Bay is a much better hitter than both of them and his stat line will show it at the end of the season. There really is no reason to be getting worked up about him right now.


Wells has been viewed as underachieving the past two years. He's finally living up to expectations this year.

I wish somebody would have told me this before I traded him away for Mark Prior in December.. ;-7
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Postby Geek » Wed May 10, 2006 7:01 pm

mweir145 wrote:
Geek wrote:
mweir145 wrote:
Geek wrote:
jh2031 wrote:
Iconoclastic wrote:See my signature. Bay was overrated going into this year and should have gone much later than he was taken. Lucky batting average last year and at his age last season might be his ceiling.


At his age....that was his ceiling? At 27 or 28? So, I guess that's it for Bay. He should just retire at 28 since he can't do better than last year. Thanks for the laugh. ;-D


Well, pitchers are actually paying attention to him when he's on base, and the SB's magically disappeared. You hasn't even attempted a SB for the better part of a month.

When you don't run, don't hit HR's, and fail miserably with men on base, you're not an elite outfielder. Period.

He's still worth owning, but he doesn't deserve to be considered in the Beltran/Sizemore/Wells class of outfielders. More like a Matt Holliday-type.

When did Wells become such a valuable player? For the better part of 2 seasons, he really did nothing better than a #2 OF fantasy-wise. Did 1 hot month suddenly change his value that much? We'll see how it goes the rest of the year..
As for Sizemore, I personally don't think the guy has enough power to be worth more than Bay. Sure he can steal 20, but so can Bay.

IMO, Bay is a much better hitter than both of them and his stat line will show it at the end of the season. There really is no reason to be getting worked up about him right now.


Wells has been viewed as underachieving the past two years. He's finally living up to expectations this year.

I wish somebody would have told me this before I traded him away for Mark Prior in December.. ;-7


Hey, I wish I had traded A-Rod for Pujols in December and kept Utley or Reyes instead of Bay. Oops.
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Postby JMoney » Wed May 10, 2006 7:23 pm

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JMoney wrote:So I traded away Dunn for Bay??? Good, Bad, or Ugly??


Very good. With your team you don't need Dunns Home Runs and you don't need his average killing you. You have two power hitting first basemen already in Thome and Howard, and now you have two top 15 OFers in Crawford and Bay. Is this an 8 team league or how many teams?



its a 10 team H2H.
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Postby Geek » Wed May 10, 2006 8:00 pm

Double play with the opposing pitcher on the ropes.

Good thing I benched his sorry ass!
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Postby pibb55 » Wed May 10, 2006 9:33 pm

For people panicing about Bay, I was just watching the game and here's some more encouraging news...

His Career average at this point in the season is .314 5 HR 14 RBI, while he has 6HR and 14 RBI, and his unlucky BABIP can explain why his average isnt up to his standards... he will come around, he's one of the top buy low candidates along with Aramis I think
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Postby Geek » Wed May 10, 2006 9:38 pm

pibb55 wrote:For people panicing about Bay, I was just watching the game and here's some more encouraging news...

His Career average at this point in the season is .314 5 HR 14 RBI, while he has 6HR and 14 RBI, and his unlucky BABIP can explain why his average isnt up to his standards... he will come around, he's one of the top buy low candidates along with Aramis I think


Maybe, but he belongs on the bench until he gets things figured out.

0-4 with 3 K's and a GIDP is really f'ing brutal--he's the reason they're going to lose the game.
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Postby AcidRock23 » Thu May 11, 2006 7:52 am

He's also walked tons (5th in the NL right now...) and I kind of think that that may be contributing to slow start and would indicate that his batting eye is still doing decently. I'm not giving up on him until it warms up a bit more.
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Postby Geek » Thu May 11, 2006 8:31 am

If Jim Tracy is really going to stop Bay from running, then there's no reason not to trade him away for a Carlos Lee/Vernon Wells type of player now. He'll be lucky to match those guys in the other four categories even if he turns it around.
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Postby BillyHallDisciple » Thu May 11, 2006 9:37 am

Agreed, I just offered him for Carlos Lee yesterday. I'd rather have production than promise.
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Postby cordscords » Thu May 11, 2006 11:33 am

He's hitting 6th in the lineup today 8-o
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