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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:56 pm
by cards05
I'm with ya kcs. I'm very hard on our hometown guys, but Ozzie is clearly a no-doubt hall of famer.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:04 am
by cards05
error

PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:04 am
by cards05
error, sorry for the triple post.

Re: Reggie Sanders might, just might, be a Hall of Famer!

PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 1:03 am
by Matthias
Bosy Billups wrote:Okay, it's not Probable at all... but, look at career longevity and his overall numbers... not bad.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/473 ... ZnkgGFCLcF

There is probably worse in the HOF?!?


There's a difference beween having not bad numbers and having HOF numbers. Reggie Sanders will make it to the HOF the same way I do: with the $5 at the door.

Sorry, man, but this is simply absurd. I've been a baseball fan of varying degrees throughout Reggie Sanders' career (granted: not in the cities that he's played in) but never, ever, ever have I thought, "Hey, Reggie Sanders? He's ******** awesome!!!!"

PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 1:33 am
by blankman
Bernie Williams has played as many seasons as Sanders and has better numbers, including 4 Gold Gloves, a Silver Slugger, and a batting title, none of which Sanders has, and even he is very unlikely to make the Hall.

Bernie's also got 3 more rings and 4 more All-Star appearances.

Simply, Sanders has no chance.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 2:17 am
by FalcoAtL
kcs261 wrote:Hey, I'm from St. Louis and am hard on home-town guys. We got totally ripped on the Mulder deal and I wouldn't touch him on any fantasy team. Sidney Ponson is a big fat piece of lard who should be carrying Anthony Reyes' jock to the stadium each day -- same thing with Marquis.

But Ozzie Smith was clearly a Hall-of-Famer, just because of his defense. The guy was simply amazing. He made plays that nobdoy else has ever made since.

While the career hitting numbers aren't great, the guy was CLUTCH -- clutch like D. Jeter.

Don't diss on the Wizard. :-)


I thought we were talking about Reggie? :-?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 2:24 am
by WittyC
kcs261 wrote:Hey, I'm from St. Louis and am hard on home-town guys. We got totally ripped on the Mulder deal and I wouldn't touch him on any fantasy team. Sidney Ponson is a big fat piece of lard who should be carrying Anthony Reyes' jock to the stadium each day -- same thing with Marquis.

But Ozzie Smith was clearly a Hall-of-Famer, just because of his defense. The guy was simply amazing. He made plays that nobdoy else has ever made since.

While the career hitting numbers aren't great, the guy was CLUTCH -- clutch like D. Jeter.

Don't diss on the Wizard. :-)


He got voted in for backflips and a play he made with the Padres. Oh, and you and the rest of the Redbird fans need to stop spamming the AS voting, thank you very much! ;-7

Back OT, if Reggie Sanders was voted into the HoF I think Ron Santo would go suicide-bomber on Cooperstown.

:-b

Re: Reggie Sanders may be in the Hall of Fame!

PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 4:03 am
by Havok1517
TheYanks04 wrote:
Bosy Billups wrote:Okay, it's not Probable at all... but, look at career longevity and his overall numbers... not bad.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/473 ... ZnkgGFCLcF

There is probably worse in the HOF?!?



Yes...there names are Ozzie Smith and Bill Mazeroski.



&&&&&&&&&& Phil Rizzuto!!!!!

PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 6:20 am
by BobbyRoberto
One of the worst arguments for saying a player is a Hall of Famer is to say, "Well, there are worse players already in the Hall of Fame." If they wanted to sweep in all the players who are better than the worst players already in, they'd have to build a whole new building and re-name the Hall of Fame to the Hall of Players Who Didn't Totally Suck.

There have been numerous errors in the past in which players were inducted to the Hall of Fame, mostly by the Old Timer's Committees, but that doesn't mean the standards should be lowered to the level of those stupid mistakes.

The more scrubs they let in, the more devalued the whole thing gets. At some point, they'll need to create the Super Hall of Fame for guys like Babe Ruth, Ty Cobb, Hank Aaron, Walter Johnson--the true immortals. Then the regular Hall of Fame can have the scrubs like Phil Rizzuto, George Kell, etc. Finally, they could build the Hall of Crap and put in the Cubs SS-2B combo of Neifi Perez and Tony Womack.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:45 pm
by DK
Guys, you should know not to take Yanks04 seriously... The sad thing is that I think he actually believes what he says half the time.