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Postby The Miner Part 2 » Sat Jun 17, 2006 2:36 am

Havok1517 wrote:
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Havok1517 wrote:for the same reason why they told you to hold on to Felix (thats paying off in his last 5 starts now too)


2 starts.*



uhhh, no. Felix's last 5 starts...

4W-1L 3.00 ERA 6.2K 1.4BB


not bad at all ;-D


in seperate starts in his last 5 outings he's given up 5 runs and 7 runs. hardly fantasy payoff.
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Postby Brave New One » Sat Jun 17, 2006 2:57 am

Why so much disdain....for Cain? I see what your saying. I have had him off and on this year as a spot starter, and he can be very frustrating. In his defense however, he is young (pretty much still a rook) and he has looked pretty good for over a month. He hasn't been beaten up since early May. And have you seen the guy pitch? He has some nasty stuff. He gets lots of K's and is a hell of a lot better than most WW garbage out there. He is a fine fantasy #5 or #6 starter, or spot starter with right match-up. Don't be suprised if he puts it together and becomes lights out. Don't be vain...give some love to Cain.
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Postby StudentOfTheGame » Sat Jun 17, 2006 2:58 am

The Miner Part 2 wrote:
Havok1517 wrote:
The Miner Part 2 wrote:
Havok1517 wrote:for the same reason why they told you to hold on to Felix (thats paying off in his last 5 starts now too)


2 starts.*



uhhh, no. Felix's last 5 starts...

4W-1L 3.00 ERA 6.2K 1.4BB


not bad at all ;-D


in seperate starts in his last 5 outings he's given up 5 runs and 7 runs. hardly fantasy payoff.


Well if you were smart enough, you probably benched him for the 7 ER start at the Phillies. You have to be careful if you own him right now, but I think the patience will pay off sometime this season. He has looked rough lately, but he has the potential to dominate, and he's shown it a couple of times this year.
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Postby Havok1517 » Sat Jun 17, 2006 3:04 am

The Miner Part 2 wrote:
Havok1517 wrote:
The Miner Part 2 wrote:
Havok1517 wrote:for the same reason why they told you to hold on to Felix (thats paying off in his last 5 starts now too)


2 starts.*



uhhh, no. Felix's last 5 starts...

4W-1L 3.00 ERA 6.2K 1.4BB


not bad at all ;-D


in seperate starts in his last 5 outings he's given up 5 runs and 7 runs. hardly fantasy payoff.


Actually, that would be the last 6 starts. You're forgetting to count tonight's start, which he won. Also, in the games he gave up 7 & 5, he won. Any win in fantasy is valuable. My stats are correct and those are for sure fantasy worthy in his last 5, maybe 6, starts. ;-D
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Postby The Miner Part 2 » Sat Jun 17, 2006 3:15 am

Havok1517 wrote:
The Miner Part 2 wrote:
Havok1517 wrote:
The Miner Part 2 wrote:
Havok1517 wrote:for the same reason why they told you to hold on to Felix (thats paying off in his last 5 starts now too)


2 starts.*



uhhh, no. Felix's last 5 starts...

4W-1L 3.00 ERA 6.2K 1.4BB


not bad at all ;-D


in seperate starts in his last 5 outings he's given up 5 runs and 7 runs. hardly fantasy payoff.


Actually, that would be the last 6 starts. You're forgetting to count tonight's start, which he won. Also, in the games he gave up 7 & 5, he won. Any win in fantasy is valuable. My stats are correct and those are for sure fantasy worthy in his last 5, maybe 6, starts. ;-D


youre delusional. have fun in your 2x2 league where wins are weighted heavily enough to make you look over the obviousness of king feliex's inconsistencies.
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Postby Havok1517 » Sat Jun 17, 2006 3:16 am

Tell me how 4W-1L 3.00 ERA 6.2K 1.4BB in th last 5 starts bad and not useful in fantasy???
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Postby StudentOfTheGame » Sat Jun 17, 2006 3:19 am

Havok1517 wrote:Tell me how 4W-1L 3.00 ERA 6.2K 1.4BB in th last 5 starts bad and not useful in fantasy???


I agree. Felix looks to be turning the corner somewhat. He doesnt have the same contorl he did last year, but he's looking a little better. He's been solid with the wins and the K's lately, and the ERA and WHIP will come down in time.
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Postby The Miner Part 2 » Sat Jun 17, 2006 3:28 am

Havok1517 wrote:Tell me how 4W-1L 3.00 ERA 6.2K 1.4BB in th last 5 starts bad and not useful in fantasy???


in his last 5 starts king has an era of 3.86.

in his last 6 starts king has an era of 4.83.

not sure where youre getting your numbers but they are wrong.
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Postby Havok1517 » Sat Jun 17, 2006 3:35 am

The Miner Part 2 wrote:
Havok1517 wrote:Tell me how 4W-1L 3.00 ERA 6.2K 1.4BB in th last 5 starts bad and not useful in fantasy???


in his last 5 starts king has an era of 3.86.

in his last 6 starts king has an era of 4.83.

not sure where youre getting your numbers but they are wrong.



uh, dude? 4+2=6+1=7+5=12+3=15/5=3

http://fantasybaseball.rotoworld.com/co ... num=&id=95

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Postby StudentOfTheGame » Sat Jun 17, 2006 3:38 am

Havok1517 wrote:
The Miner Part 2 wrote:
Havok1517 wrote:Tell me how 4W-1L 3.00 ERA 6.2K 1.4BB in th last 5 starts bad and not useful in fantasy???


in his last 5 starts king has an era of 3.86.

in his last 6 starts king has an era of 4.83.

not sure where youre getting your numbers but they are wrong.



uh, dude? 4+2=6+1=7+5=12+3=15/5=3

http://fantasybaseball.rotoworld.com/co ... num=&id=95

Thanks ;-D


Hmmm thats not how you calculate ERA. :-? So he is averaging giving up 3 runs in his last five starts, but that does not give him an ERA of 3.00.
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