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Postby mrider » Sun Jun 18, 2006 11:59 am

Fantasy wise it would be awesome if he became the closer. SP RP elgibility as a closer is huge.
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Postby Dan Lambskin » Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:26 am

i cut him loose in my 5x5, but i held onto him in a deep H2H league. he's got some potential, but he's been too inconsistent to stick around on my squad
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Postby perlick29 » Mon Jun 19, 2006 11:37 am

Here is why I defend Cain:

1) his k's are 6.7 per nine meaning that he's an effective back end of the rotation guy.

2) His stuff. His fastball is very lively and I just wish wish he'd use his slider more because it's an effective pitch.

3)His upcoming schedule. Cain is projected tentatively to start:
6/19 Home vs. LAA. ;-D
6/25 Home vs. OAK- already pitched a CG shutout versus the A's. ;-D
7/1 Road vs. SDP- pitcher's heaven.
7/6 Road vs. LAD- actually skips the three days at Coors and pitches here. ;-D

Thats his schedule until the All Star Break. Looks like a darn good pickup or start to me.

I agree that next year is more for Cain, but he'll have some good outings mixed in, and they odds are that they will come in his next 4 starts.
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Postby PlayingWithFire » Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:30 pm

Because he has great stuff?

mid 90s fastball, power curve, slider, changeup needs work though.

As to all of you saying next year is his year, that might be so ERA and WHIP wise but I don't see him getting all that many wins playing on a team with a bunch of 40 years olds.
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Postby NikkiSixx » Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:36 pm

He's still managing a .242 batting average against and he is racking up the wins. I hear that is pretty good for fantasy purposes. Not to mention he is one of the top prospects in all of baseball and I fully expect him to finish as one of the top 20 SP's in the 2nd half of the season, maybe even top 10.
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Postby NikkiSixx » Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:37 pm

I think he will finish with a 4.00 ERA, a 1.25 WHIP, and about 180 K's. Thats not too bad, especially considering what his numbers are now.
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Postby tomdoyle3 » Mon Jun 19, 2006 1:54 pm

One good thing is that he pitched 191 innings last year between AAA and the majors. I don't think that fatigue will be an issue with him. A lot of times, young pitchers improve greatly during the 2nd half. This may or may not happen, I think it is more likely that he takes a step up around this time next year, not this year. ;-D
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Postby PlayingWithFire » Mon Jun 19, 2006 1:59 pm

tomdoyle3 wrote:One good thing is that he pitched 191 innings last year between AAA and the majors. I don't think that fatigue will be an issue with him. A lot of times, young pitchers improve greatly during the 2nd half. This may or may not happen, I think it is more likely that he takes a step up around this time next year, not this year. ;-D


Cain is not the one with fatigue issues, that's Verlander :-)
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Postby tomdoyle3 » Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:39 pm

PlayingWithFire wrote:
tomdoyle3 wrote:One good thing is that he pitched 191 innings last year between AAA and the majors. I don't think that fatigue will be an issue with him. A lot of times, young pitchers improve greatly during the 2nd half. This may or may not happen, I think it is more likely that he takes a step up around this time next year, not this year. ;-D


Cain is not the one with fatigue issues, that's Verlander :-)


Yea, and I'm saying that we won't have to worry about him getting worse as the season goes on, becuase he has pitched a lot of innings before. ;-D
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Postby J35J » Mon Jun 19, 2006 4:29 pm

2006
1.38 WHIP
3.91 BB/9

Career Minors
1.22 WHIP (avg at best for a highly touted prospect)
3.74 BB/9

I say it will be a couple years before you see quality numbers from him. He needs to learn how to throw strikes before I take him serious enough to make him anything higher than a 3rd or 4th starter.

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