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Postby scotty_pod » Tue Nov 07, 2006 8:05 pm

I know he's always been highly touted...my question is will he be undervalued or overvalued next year??? I've heard both.

Yahoo has him ranked 28th overall as of the end of the season...which seems high to me. I've heard him called a slightly poorer man's Jose Reyes, however, defending his ranking.

I am pretty high on him because i see an improvement on those numbers...and he slugs almost .500 with a ton of SBs.

I wanted thoughts on...

1. whether or not he was over or under rated
2. where he should go in a full draft
3. where he should go in a 5-keeper 8 person draft with double emphasis on defense.

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Postby jbauer2485 » Tue Nov 07, 2006 8:21 pm

He's rated so high on Yahoo that in every draft someone will take him too quickly in my opinion. There's no way he'll end up on my team.
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Postby acsguitar » Tue Nov 07, 2006 8:28 pm

In my league which seems to no need SB's I bet he goes later
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Postby ayebatter » Tue Nov 07, 2006 9:04 pm

The 'mean Zips' projection in the' Baseball Think Factory' has Hanley at

at bats - 599
average - .277
obp - .338
runs - 113
hr - 13
rbi - 52
sb - 40

and I'm sure that he'll go wayyyyyy too early in most drafts
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Postby DevilDriver » Tue Nov 07, 2006 9:21 pm

Amazing season, but I highly doubt he duplicates it in '07.
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Postby DevilDriver » Tue Nov 07, 2006 9:23 pm

ayebatter wrote:The 'mean Zips' projection in the' Baseball Think Factory' has Hanley at

at bats - 599
average - .277
obp - .338
runs - 113
hr - 13
rbi - 52
sb - 40

and I'm sure that he'll go wayyyyyy too early in most drafts


those numbers seem about right
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Postby Old_Style » Wed Nov 08, 2006 12:05 am

i have him putting up slightly better numbers.
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Postby sportsaddict » Wed Nov 08, 2006 12:46 am

Hanley is obviously a very gifted player with a good combination of speed and power. He's a young star in this league and will be a solid player for years to come.

Next year for fantasy purposes I think Hanley WILL be overvalued. I see his upside being enormous but he could just as easily have a down year. I won't be taking a risk on him next year in the early rounds, I would much rather have a more consistent SS that I know will give me numbers later on.
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Postby BravesGuy » Wed Nov 08, 2006 1:55 am

just read this from rotoworld.com

Ramirez showed few signs of being ready for the majors while hitting .271/.335/.385 with 26 steals for Double-A Portland in 2005, but he became the immediate favorite to start at shortstop for the Marlins after coming over from Boston in the Josh Beckett trade and he ended up outperforming every other player in an incredible class of NL rookies. Along with hitting more than twice as many homers than he did in any of his seasons in the minors, he finished in the top 10 in the NL with 46 doubles and 11 triples. His 51 steals ranked third. Ramirez's glove lagged behind his bat, but his tools will make him an above average shortstop in time. Unless he falls back into some of the bad habits that plagued him as a prospect, he'll go to at least a few All-Star Games in his career. It's too much to expect even better numbers from him next year, but since he'll get to keep doing all of the running that he wants to out of the leadoff spot, he ranks behind only Jose Reyes and Jimmy Rollins among NL shortstops.
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Postby J35J » Wed Nov 08, 2006 3:03 pm

ayebatter wrote:The 'mean Zips' projection in the' Baseball Think Factory' has Hanley at

at bats - 599
average - .277
obp - .338
runs - 113
hr - 13
rbi - 52
sb - 40

and I'm sure that he'll go wayyyyyy too early in most drafts


.285 Avg
13 HR
55 RBI
110 Runs
46 SB

Looks like my projections are pretty similar. My .285 projection would be more on the higher end I would think so I don't mind the .277 prediction at all either. Either way he should be pretty solid next year but will probably go higher than where I would want to take him.

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