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Postby cordscords » Tue Apr 10, 2007 12:06 pm

He also only went to 3 balls on 1 batter.

Thats impressive ;-D
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Postby TheA'sFatLeadoffMan » Tue Apr 10, 2007 1:41 pm

I picked him up, but won't start him until he's proven more, or faces a bad team, except maybe the D-Rays, all their speed would have me worrying about whether he'll be focusing on throwing strikes or the runners.

I hope he breaks out though, guy wwould help me a lot in K's.
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Postby Carey Saders » Tue Apr 10, 2007 1:50 pm

Pogotheostrich wrote:
BravesGuy wrote:Leo might not be the best, but he is a pretty good coach.
I completely agree with that. Mazzone is a great pitching coach. I just think people give him a little to much credit.


You just want Dave Duncan to get all the praise ;-)
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Postby mikhayl » Tue Apr 10, 2007 1:51 pm

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Drunken Rhino wrote:Two I can think of are 2001 John Burkett and 2004 Paul Bryd.
If you want to give credit for 2001 Burkett shouldn't you also give blame for 2000 Burkett? Byrd is a bad example. His 2003 ERA with the Royals was 3.90. His 2004 ERA with the Braves was 3.94. Plus his WHIP went up from 1.15 to 1.24.

Jaret Wright seems to be the only pitcher I've found to have a dramatic change only while under Mazzone. You might be able to make the same claim for Moss but it is hard to say since he got injured.


Mike Hampton is a possibility...but it could also be that he was rescued more by Georgia's atmospheric pressure than Mazzone's guidance.
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Postby Yoda » Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:12 pm

Back to DCab... I really want to like this guy because I think his stuff is unhittable. But the reason why he is so unhittable is the same reason why he can't find the K zone some nights.

Check out his game log from when he was called up from AAA last year.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/732 ... ?year=2006

Overall numbers look much better after that minor league stint but you notice the pattern. He will pitch very well and then blow up the next one. Maybe he'll string two nice outings then blow up the next two. Until I see him string together 4-5 good to great starts, I just can't fall for him.
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Postby RoxSox8 » Thu Apr 19, 2007 1:46 am

cordscords wrote:He also only went to 3 balls on 1 batter.

Thats impressive ;-D


That has to be a good sign.
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Postby bselig » Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:47 am

i've been starting this guy all year, it just felt like he was on the horizon so long that his potential was bound to make an impact eventually, plus i remember him being decent at the end of last season. ill keep starting him even if he starts getting violated
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Postby OneLoveBoomer » Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:45 pm

He's kind of like my strike-out special ops guy. I tend not to pitch him early in the week (H2H) because I don't trust him yet, but late in the week he's great for salvaging the K category.
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Postby shasty mcnasty » Thu Apr 19, 2007 6:02 pm

TheA'sFatLeadoffMan wrote:I picked him up, but won't start him until he's proven more, or faces a bad team, except maybe the D-Rays, all their speed would have me worrying about whether he'll be focusing on throwing strikes or the runners.

I hope he breaks out though, guy wwould help me a lot in K's.



this is exactly what i'm doing. my starting pitching is a bit volatile/scary (harden/hamels/greinke/snell), so i've got him sitting on my bench for a couple starts (unless my staff gets blown up early in a week, then i'll start him later in the week no problem). If he really has put it together, he'll obviously be worth the pickup. If he's the same dominant/blowup guy, well, he'll show it in the next couple starts, i'd imagine.
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Postby silverZ » Thu Apr 19, 2007 6:47 pm

Tomorrow against the Jays is going to be interesting.
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