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Re: 30/30

Postby jorwoods » Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:49 pm

markj11 wrote:
CadensDad wrote:
Sheff a lock for 30/30? Sorry man I seriously doubt that. I just dont see him runing the rest of the season


He had 2 steals last night and one was home plate. Do you mean starting today at 1:58pm he is going to quit running?


I wouldn't say he's a LOCK. The guy hasn't stolen 20 bases since 1990. I agree that he probably will, but the guy is getting up there in years. The first sign of a tweaked hammy and sheff will not be running this aggressively, if at all.
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Re: 30/30

Postby jfg » Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:50 pm

markj11 wrote:There seems to be an unusually large amont of players on pace for 30/30 this year. There even seems to be more rookies labled as possible 25+/25+. Are the days of drafting pure speed guys early gone?
30/30
Soriano 16HR/13SB
Sheff 22HR/16SB
Wright 16HR/20SB
Beltran 16HR/14SB
Phillips 19HR/17SB
Rollins 18HR/15SB
Sizemore 15HR/25SB
H. Ramírez 14HR/27SB
Byrnes 14HR/19SB
Hart 12HR/16SB
Braun 13HR/8SB in 172AB
Pence 11HR/8SB


I'd say 3 of those guys will finish 30/30 if they stay healthy. Wright, Sizemore, and Rollins. Soriano, Beltran, Sheffield and Ramirez will be very close. I don't think it changes the way people will look at pure speed players though. In roto leagues there will always be a place for those kind of players. Plus, the guys above will almost all be drafted high and be evenly distributed. You can't really stockpile 30/30 guys.
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Re: 30/30

Postby Yoda » Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:15 pm

Sheff really wants to stick it to the Yanks. I will bet my house that he finishes 30/30 or better barring any injury.
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Re: 30/30

Postby markj11 » Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:19 pm

jfg wrote:
markj11 wrote:There seems to be an unusually large amont of players on pace for 30/30 this year. There even seems to be more rookies labled as possible 25+/25+. Are the days of drafting pure speed guys early gone?
30/30
Soriano 16HR/13SB
Sheff 22HR/16SB
Wright 16HR/20SB
Beltran 16HR/14SB
Phillips 19HR/17SB
Rollins 18HR/15SB
Sizemore 15HR/25SB
H. Ramírez 14HR/27SB
Byrnes 14HR/19SB
Hart 12HR/16SB
Braun 13HR/8SB in 172AB
Pence 11HR/8SB


I'd say 3 of those guys will finish 30/30 if they stay healthy. Wright, Sizemore, and Rollins. Soriano, Beltran, Sheffield and Ramirez will be very close. I don't think it changes the way people will look at pure speed players though. In roto leagues there will always be a place for those kind of players. Plus, the guys above will almost all be drafted high and be evenly distributed. You can't really stockpile 30/30 guys.


I have 5 of listed players and could see being able to select them all next year looking for 25/25:
Sheff, Wright, Phillips, Braun, and Byrnes
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Re: 30/30

Postby BJSFAN123 » Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:26 pm

Will Soriano get 30 SB's? He was interviewed at the all-star break and said something like "I won't be running as much since I am on a better team now"
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Re: 30/30

Postby CBMGreatOne » Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:30 pm

Yoda wrote:Sheff really wants to stick it to the Yanks. I will bet my house that he finishes 30/30 or better barring any injury.


I don't have a house to bet you, but you're on. LOL :-b

I understand he wants to stick it to the Yankees, but he's nearing 40. I consider his total of 16 SBs thus far to be an anomaly, albeit a slight one.
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Re: 30/30

Postby JoeMoney19 » Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:41 pm

markj11 wrote:There seems to be an unusually large amont of players on pace for 30/30 this year. There even seems to be more rookies labled as possible 25+/25+. Are the days of drafting pure speed guys early gone?
30/30
Soriano 16HR/13SB
Sheff 22HR/16SB
Wright 16HR/20SB
Beltran 16HR/14SB
Phillips 19HR/17SB
Rollins 18HR/15SB
Sizemore 15HR/25SB
H. Ramírez 14HR/27SB
Byrnes 14HR/19SB
Hart 12HR/16SB
Braun 13HR/8SB in 172AB
Pence 11HR/8SB


I know it may be getting repetitive at this point, but this lists really points to how underrated Phillips has been this year
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Re: 30/30

Postby Yoda » Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:51 pm

JoeMoney19 wrote:
markj11 wrote:There seems to be an unusually large amont of players on pace for 30/30 this year. There even seems to be more rookies labled as possible 25+/25+. Are the days of drafting pure speed guys early gone?
30/30
Soriano 16HR/13SB
Sheff 22HR/16SB
Wright 16HR/20SB
Beltran 16HR/14SB
Phillips 19HR/17SB
Rollins 18HR/15SB
Sizemore 15HR/25SB
H. Ramírez 14HR/27SB
Byrnes 14HR/19SB
Hart 12HR/16SB
Braun 13HR/8SB in 172AB
Pence 11HR/8SB


I know it may be getting repetitive at this point, but this lists really points to how underrated Phillips has been this year


He has been ridiculous but even so, he only has a .327 OBP. Looks like a poor man's Soriano with slightly better plate discipline and not as much power.
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Re: 30/30

Postby J35J » Mon Aug 13, 2007 2:41 pm

On July 16th...
Soriano 16HR/13SB
Sheff 22HR/16SB
Wright 16HR/20SB
Beltran 16HR/14SB
Phillips 19HR/17SB
Rollins 18HR/15SB
Sizemore 15HR/25SB
H. Ramírez 14HR/27SB
Byrnes 14HR/19SB
Hart 12HR/16SB


Another month in...August 13th
Soriano 18HR/18SB
Sheff 24HR/18SB
Wright 22HR/25SB
Beltran 20HR/15SB
Phillips 21HR/22SB
Rollins 21HR/22SB
Sizemore 19HR/29SB
H. Ramírez 21HR/37SB
Byrnes 18HR/31SB
Hart 18HR/18SB

I think Wright will make it but I would think it would be tough for anyone else to hit the mark. I could see Phillips, Rollins and Ramirez come close but I think they may fall a couple HR short.
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Re: 30/30

Postby AllStar215 » Mon Aug 13, 2007 3:00 pm

I think both Wright and Hanley have the best chance out of all these guys.
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