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Re: Royals sign Ankiel

Postby Bloody Sox » Sat Jan 23, 2010 12:48 pm

MasterX1918 wrote:Billy Butler in the 7th round? I've seen alot of mock drafts with him being taken in the 4th right with Morales, Berkman and Lee.

Naw... he's going at 81 in the latest MDP which is 7th round. I'd still rather have Gonzo in the 3rd.
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Re: Royals sign Ankiel

Postby DaSh 1s » Sat Jan 23, 2010 2:04 pm

MasterX1918 wrote:
DaSh 1s wrote:Just off the top of my head, 8th roundish (12 team)? Instead of dropping my 3rd, 4th pick on the Votto, Gonzo, Canadian Bear tier, I can hit up a 2B/SS/3B/C and grab Butler in the ~7th,~8th. I am trying a bunch of different mocks this week on waiting 1B out as long as I can. It's such a insanely deep position, that you may be able to afford missing the Teix/Howard/Prince/Miggy, Votto/Gonzo/Canadian Bear tiers...

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Billy Butler in the 7th round? I've seen alot of mock drafts with him being taken in the 4th right with Morales, Berkman and Lee.


4th round? in what a twenty team league?

In my 12 team leagues, I haven't seen a mock yet to take him in the top fifty. The Votto/Gonzo/Morneau tier goes down in the 3rd-4th round. Lee, Lance, and Kendry haven't come close to be taking in the top fifty....
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Re: Royals sign Ankiel

Postby MasterX1918 » Sat Jan 23, 2010 3:57 pm

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Re: Royals sign Ankiel

Postby Neato Torpedo » Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:10 pm

MasterX1918 wrote:I've been looking at the Cafe mocks

http://www.couchmanagers.com/mock_drafts/?draftnum=3905

Oh yeah, that one....heh....disregard that one, it was mostly autodrafted because we ditched it when Aussie decided to invade and screw everything up. Look at "Phil"'s picks. Taken in the 7th here: http://www.couchmanagers.com/mock_draft ... ftnum=3968 and undrafted so far in the late 8th here: http://www.couchmanagers.com/mock_draft ... ftnum=4671
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Re: Royals sign Ankiel

Postby kab21 » Sat Jan 23, 2010 9:23 pm

MasterX1918 wrote:I've been looking at the Cafe mocks

http://www.couchmanagers.com/mock_drafts/?draftnum=3905


6.70 Billy Butler 1B KC

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Re: Royals sign Ankiel

Postby kev921 » Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:11 pm

Past free agent signings for the Royals have not gone well. That's why I can't bring myself to have any confidence in another older free agent with streaky stats and injury question marks.

but let come to reality, the Royals have no confidence in their talent and appear to be okay with being below average until their recent draft picks are Major League ready (very risky move)

Yet, most Royals fans stand behind our team no matter how poor they perform
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Re: Royals sign Ankiel

Postby Tavish » Sun Jan 24, 2010 10:41 pm

kev921 wrote:but let come to reality, the Royals have no confidence in their talent and appear to be okay with being below average until their recent draft picks are Major League ready (very risky move)

I'm not sure how that's a very risky move. It's pretty much the only move for teams that aren't going to be in on every big free agent year after year. The team has to settle for below average right now simply because the farm has produced absolutely nothing for years now. Since the Beltran trade in 2003 that brought Buck and Teahen to KC and forced the call-up of DeJesus the farm has produced the following that played any significant innings:

Luke Hochevar
Billy Butler
Mike Aviles
JP Howell
Ruben Gotay
Mitch Maier

6 players in 6+ seasons. I'm not sure if the FO is okay with being below average until the prospects start coming, but in all reality they don't have much choice.
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Re: Royals sign Ankiel

Postby DaSh 1s » Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:02 am

I look at the Royals projected starting lineup and their last year OPS+.

C Jason Kendall 72 OPS+
1B Billy Butler 124 OPS+
2B Alberto Callaspo 114 OPS+
3B Alex Gordon 86 OPS+
SS Yuniesky Betancourt 68 OPS+
LF David DeJesus 106 OPS+
CF Scott Podsednik 98 OPS+
RF Rick Ankiel 76 OPS+
DH Jose Guillen 80 OPS+

This off-season they also add Brian Anderson (last year 75 OPS+) and Josh Fields (last year 68 OPS+

Yikes.
B-Chad wrote:Pedroia's LD rate of 20% is reason to believe he'll maintain a higher BA then Cano. It should also be noted he hits more FB's then Cano, which means that even if he posts a lower HR/FB then Cano, he should come in reasonably close to Cano in HR's
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Re: Royals sign Ankiel

Postby MasterX1918 » Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:33 am

Tavish wrote:
kev921 wrote:but let come to reality, the Royals have no confidence in their talent and appear to be okay with being below average until their recent draft picks are Major League ready (very risky move)

I'm not sure how that's a very risky move. It's pretty much the only move for teams that aren't going to be in on every big free agent year after year. The team has to settle for below average right now simply because the farm has produced absolutely nothing for years now. Since the Beltran trade in 2003 that brought Buck and Teahen to KC and forced the call-up of DeJesus the farm has produced the following that played any significant innings:

Luke Hochevar
Billy Butler
Mike Aviles
JP Howell
Ruben Gotay
Mitch Maier

6 players in 6+ seasons. I'm not sure if the FO is okay with being below average until the prospects start coming, but in all reality they don't have much choice.

Zach Greinke?
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Re: Royals sign Ankiel

Postby AussieDodger » Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:36 am

MasterX1918 wrote:
Tavish wrote:
kev921 wrote:but let come to reality, the Royals have no confidence in their talent and appear to be okay with being below average until their recent draft picks are Major League ready (very risky move)

I'm not sure how that's a very risky move. It's pretty much the only move for teams that aren't going to be in on every big free agent year after year. The team has to settle for below average right now simply because the farm has produced absolutely nothing for years now. Since the Beltran trade in 2003 that brought Buck and Teahen to KC and forced the call-up of DeJesus the farm has produced the following that played any significant innings:

Luke Hochevar
Billy Butler
Mike Aviles
JP Howell
Ruben Gotay
Mitch Maier

6 players in 6+ seasons. I'm not sure if the FO is okay with being below average until the prospects start coming, but in all reality they don't have much choice.

Zach Greinke?


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