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Re: Easiest catchers/pitchers to steal against?

Postby Curtis Pride » Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:08 pm

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Re: Easiest catchers/pitchers to steal against?

Postby MasterX1918 » Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:55 pm

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soty wrote:Hate to say it as a Sox fan, but Wakefield is definitely a target for SBs.


No, VMart is. He is a horrid defensive catcher.

what? even with Johnny Bench catching Wafefield would still be a huge target for steals. I love the guy but people run all day on him- Miguel Olivo type people. Granted V-Mart can't throw but Wakefield's 60 mph knuckleball is the main catalyst.
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Re: Easiest catchers/pitchers to steal against?

Postby Curtis Pride » Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:44 am

VMart gave up boatloads of steals before Wakefield ever came into his life.

Yes, Wakefield is horrible in terms of speed to the plate, but Victor is very bad as well.

So to answer the O/P, if Wakefield is ever pitching, then the combination of Wakefield/Victor is automatic steals for anyone on base.
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Re: Easiest catchers/pitchers to steal against?

Postby converge241 » Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:33 am

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Re: Easiest catchers/pitchers to steal against?

Postby bigken117 » Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:55 pm

MasterX1918 wrote:
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soty wrote:Hate to say it as a Sox fan, but Wakefield is definitely a target for SBs.


No, VMart is. He is a horrid defensive catcher.

what? even with Johnny Bench catching Wafefield would still be a huge target for steals. I love the guy but people run all day on him- Miguel Olivo type people. Granted V-Mart can't throw but Wakefield's 60 mph knuckleball is the main catalyst.


Wakefield's 60 MPH heater isn't the reason he gets runs on all the time, it's VMart. He's that horrid.
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Re: Easiest catchers/pitchers to steal against?

Postby CraigMasbruch » Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:24 pm

Hmmm...
No one gets runs on, unless they ate bad fish...
VMart caught Wakefield for only 1 month out of his career...
Wakefield doesn't have a 60mph heater, it's a knuckleball...
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Re: Easiest catchers/pitchers to steal against?

Postby DaSh 1s » Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:29 pm

bigken117 wrote:
MasterX1918 wrote:
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No, VMart is. He is a horrid defensive catcher.

what? even with Johnny Bench catching Wafefield would still be a huge target for steals. I love the guy but people run all day on him- Miguel Olivo type people. Granted V-Mart can't throw but Wakefield's 60 mph knuckleball is the main catalyst.


Wakefield's 60 MPH heater isn't the reason he gets runs on all the time, it's VMart. He's that horrid.


Because I am not even talking about Wakefield.. I am talking about VMart. Wakefield is obvious.
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Re: Easiest catchers/pitchers to steal against?

Postby rjwock07 » Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:10 pm

If steals were a gift giving holiday, V-Mart would be the Santa Clause. Great bat, but sub par behind the dish. This is obvious by the double steal the yanks pulled on him opening night. Not only did he make the WRONG READ, but the throw to second was NOT EVEN CLOSE. :-t
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Re: Easiest catchers/pitchers to steal against?

Postby DaSh 1s » Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:12 pm

rjwock07 wrote:If steals were a gift giving holiday, V-Mart would be the Santa Clause. Great bat, but sub par behind the dish. This is obvious by the double steal the yanks pulled on him opening night. Not only did he make the WRONG READ, but the throw to second was NOT EVEN CLOSE. :-t


No, when you talk about VMart you must include Tim Wakefield in the comparison. Otherwise you will be flamed.
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Re: Easiest catchers/pitchers to steal against?

Postby mweir145 » Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:15 pm

This thread reminds me of the very deliberate pitching motions of Halladay and Burnett. It is very easy to steal off the two of them.
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