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Re: Jermaine Dye

Postby KCollins1304 » Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:39 pm

thejusman1 wrote:I don't think he really cares. He already has tons of money, and he thinks if he isn't getting paid what he thinks he should be getting, he won't play.


I'm not sure if Dye thinks this but someone (I'm pretty sure it was Orlando Hudson) threw out the race card and said that he wasn't signed because he was black. This was after the fact that he had turned down an MLB contract for something like $3M.
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Re: Jermaine Dye

Postby jackie hayes » Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:21 pm

thejusman1 wrote:I don't think he really cares. He already has tons of money, and he thinks if he isn't getting paid what he thinks he should be getting, he won't play.


From what I've read, that's what I'm thinking. He doesn't seem to have any strong desire to play, but he will if he gets a good deal or it's an organization he likes. Apparently he likes the Mariners:

http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/ ... orld-peace
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Re: Jermaine Dye

Postby AussieDodger » Sat Apr 24, 2010 3:19 am

AquaMan2342 wrote:Guillen is as close to done as you can be. The guy just can't stay healthy. Dye would find full time ABs in Detroit for sure.


The Tigers have a young DH/OF coming through named Ryan Strieby, so they probably have little motivation to pay someone to do it.

Dye just picked the wrong season to have unreasonable expectations. Young guys who can field are in fashion in a big way.
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Re: Jermaine Dye

Postby AquaMan2342 » Sat Apr 24, 2010 11:36 pm

AussieDodger wrote:
AquaMan2342 wrote:Guillen is as close to done as you can be. The guy just can't stay healthy. Dye would find full time ABs in Detroit for sure.


The Tigers have a young DH/OF coming through named Ryan Strieby, so they probably have little motivation to pay someone to do it.

Dye just picked the wrong season to have unreasonable expectations. Young guys who can field are in fashion in a big way.


:-b ...I obviously know who Strieby is.....he's just not ready for the majors yet.

I think for most teams young guys are in, but Dombrowski seems to have a thing for aging veterans (Sheffield, Guillen, Damon, etc.). I think we were semi-linked to Dye during the offseason and I just think he'd be a great fit into that DH/LF rotation with Damon.
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Re: Jermaine Dye

Postby kab21 » Sun Apr 25, 2010 1:10 am

AquaMan2342 wrote:

I think for most teams young guys are in, but Dombrowski seems to have a thing for aging veterans (Sheffield, Guillen, Damon, etc.). I think we were semi-linked to Dye during the offseason and I just think he'd be a great fit into that DH/LF rotation with Damon.


But how many old, defensive butchers can you have on one team?
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Re: Jermaine Dye

Postby Neato Torpedo » Sun Apr 25, 2010 1:20 am

jackie hayes wrote:
thejusman1 wrote:I don't think he really cares. He already has tons of money, and he thinks if he isn't getting paid what he thinks he should be getting, he won't play.


From what I've read, that's what I'm thinking. He doesn't seem to have any strong desire to play, but he will if he gets a good deal or it's an organization he likes. Apparently he likes the Mariners:

http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/ ... orld-peace

With the Mariners' emphasis on defense, I'd be beyond shocked if Dye signed there.
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Re: Jermaine Dye

Postby AquaMan2342 » Sun Apr 25, 2010 1:34 am

kab21 wrote:
AquaMan2342 wrote:

I think for most teams young guys are in, but Dombrowski seems to have a thing for aging veterans (Sheffield, Guillen, Damon, etc.). I think we were semi-linked to Dye during the offseason and I just think he'd be a great fit into that DH/LF rotation with Damon.


But how many old, defensive butchers can you have on one team?


I know I've gotten past the point of thinking they themselves really care. :-D
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Re: Jermaine Dye

Postby jswede » Sun Apr 25, 2010 3:11 pm

thejusman1 wrote:I don't think he really cares. He already has tons of money, and he thinks if he isn't getting paid what he thinks he should be getting, he won't play.


hard for me to believe he could be this stupid, but perhaps I overestimate him... he has 1-3 more years of major earning power left IN HIS LIFE. He could earn in one more year (at, say, $3mil) more than he'll earn in the entire rest of his life after baseball. if he does not sign somewhere, he'll regret leaving that amount of cash on the table for the rest of his life.
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Re: Jermaine Dye

Postby DaSh 1s » Sun Apr 25, 2010 3:48 pm

jswede wrote:
thejusman1 wrote:I don't think he really cares. He already has tons of money, and he thinks if he isn't getting paid what he thinks he should be getting, he won't play.


hard for me to believe he could be this stupid, but perhaps I overestimate him... he has 1-3 more years of major earning power left IN HIS LIFE. He could earn in one more year (at, say, $3mil) more than he'll earn in the entire rest of his life after baseball. if he does not sign somewhere, he'll regret leaving that amount of cash on the table for the rest of his life.


just epic lulz.

If I earned 70+ million over a 14 year career, I'd be pretty content on saying no to 3 million for a year.

70 million and retiring at the age of 35 ;-D F no to playing on the Nats for 3 mill.
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Re: Jermaine Dye

Postby jswede » Sun Apr 25, 2010 5:14 pm

DaSh 1s wrote:
jswede wrote:
thejusman1 wrote:I don't think he really cares. He already has tons of money, and he thinks if he isn't getting paid what he thinks he should be getting, he won't play.


hard for me to believe he could be this stupid, but perhaps I overestimate him... he has 1-3 more years of major earning power left IN HIS LIFE. He could earn in one more year (at, say, $3mil) more than he'll earn in the entire rest of his life after baseball. if he does not sign somewhere, he'll regret leaving that amount of cash on the table for the rest of his life.


just epic lulz.

If I earned 70+ million over a 14 year career, I'd be pretty content on saying no to 3 million for a year.

70 million and retiring at the age of 35 ;-D F no to playing on the Nats for 3 mill.


really? 'epic'? easy to entertain you. when you grow up, you'll realize that adults spend money. and maybe someone will tell you about spending habits like Dye's. he's sitting on a small fraction of that $70mil.

his family's lifestyle likely costs $1-2mil/yr, he's lost ridiculous money in houses (plural; seen the $20mil AZ house?) and I would guess (like everyone else) in investments. (Money put in hi-end AZ real estate in 2006 is down 60+%, the Dow is still down 30% from the 2007 hi). if he's like 80% of other athletes, he's made bad deals with friends asking for start-up, etc, money that he'll never see again. I'm speculating a little, but I doubt I'm off by much -- he likely has $20-30mil in the bank.

Point is, $3mil, or more like $3-4mil each of next 2-3yrs, is a lot of money relative to what he has, and it's a one-and-last earning opportunity of a huge amount vs what he'll be able to make going fwd; which is essentially nothing. All this especially in light of recent losses in real estate and equities etc. (again, have someone explain that part to you)

feel free to disagree, but spare me anything 'epic'. child.
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