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How come nobody likes Ryan Dempster?

Postby CharlatanSin » Sat Apr 24, 2010 9:03 pm

Dude's off to a very strong start this season. He's been very solid the last two seasons. And yet, it seems that fantasy people hate him. I'm still occasionally seeing people advocating dropping him for some flavor of the month or another, or saying he's completely expendable.

What am I missing here? This is my first year owning him, so I haven't followed him closely. But his ERA and FIP are good, his K rate is serviceable, and none of his peripherals look unsustainable (obviously his BABIP and HR rate will go up some, but not dramatically).

So why doesn't Dempster get any respect?
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Re: How come nobody likes Ryan Dempster?

Postby Ender » Sat Apr 24, 2010 9:05 pm

I don't know either. Lilly is generally underrated too, I guess Zambrano soaks up all the press and makes their other guys underrated since he is always so overrated.
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Re: How come nobody likes Ryan Dempster?

Postby Carey Saders » Sat Apr 24, 2010 10:22 pm

I love Dempster. He's highly underrated. The only issue is how much he throws his slider. It's concerning in terms of health. Otherwise, he's gold.
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Re: How come nobody likes Ryan Dempster?

Postby AussieDodger » Sun Apr 25, 2010 1:44 am

For what he has achieved the last two seasons, he was so cheap :-L

http://www.fantasybaseballcafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=405116&p=3229699&hilit=dempster#p3229699

I'll chuck Dempster in there as a dark horse pick.
If he can keep his K/9 rate around 8 with a few lucky bounces........ :-°
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Re: How come nobody likes Ryan Dempster?

Postby AquaMan2342 » Sun Apr 25, 2010 1:47 am

Ender wrote:I don't know either. Lilly is generally underrated too, I guess Zambrano soaks up all the press and makes their other guys underrated since he is always so overrated.


Funny thing is, this seems kinda true. Lilly and Dempster have arguably been the two most underrated fantasy starters the last two seasons whereas Zambrano (until this year where he fell to about where he should have) is usually one of the most overrated. Kinda weird how it works out that way.
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Re: How come nobody likes Ryan Dempster?

Postby B-Chad » Sun Apr 25, 2010 3:14 am

Dempster seems to get unfair negative sentament. I don't get it. Before doing my homework this off-season, I viewed Ryan Dempster as Ryan, "Dumpster," the luck box. My thinking is his mediocrity with the Marlins as a starter and the Cubs as a closer has people jaded. He's also not the flashy, "new kid on he block," thus he gets de-valued. He gets ground balls and K's, what else can you ask for, yeesh. I felt the same way about Gavin Floyd going into the year (prime buy low P.S.). Enjoy Dempster, his peripherals are the real deal.
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Re: How come nobody likes Ryan Dempster?

Postby bigh0rt » Sun Apr 25, 2010 12:28 pm

People still remember how bad he was for the first 10 years of his career, that's all. He didn't earn the name Dumpster by pitching great for 13 years. Right or wrong, I imagine that's why.
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Re: How come nobody likes Ryan Dempster?

Postby MashinSpuds » Sun Apr 25, 2010 1:19 pm

bigh0rt wrote:People still remember how bad he was for the first 10 years of his career, that's all. He didn't earn the name Dumpster by pitching great for 13 years. Right or wrong, I imagine that's why.

Yup. Those years were bad, bad, bad. This is why the unbiased new fantasy baseball player wins out in these cases.
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Re: How come nobody likes Ryan Dempster?

Postby coma » Sun Apr 25, 2010 5:05 pm

I really wish I had gotten Dempster. It's crazy how underrated he is. He has been on a roll and you still don't hear anything about him. Huge steal for whoever was able to snag him.
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Re: How come nobody likes Ryan Dempster?

Postby kimchi_chigae » Sun Apr 25, 2010 5:52 pm

For a comedian, he's a great baseball player. ;-D
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