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by **Hyde** » Sat Apr 10, 2004 12:12 am

Why isn't Farnsworth the closer, he seems like he would love that role. He always seems intense out there on the mound, plus he can really bring some heat.

by **Andy1234** » Sat Apr 10, 2004 12:12 am

It's a Cubs thing, they haven't had that type of closer since Randy Meyers. Just be glad its not Rod Beck.

by **warrick95** » Sat Apr 10, 2004 12:29 am

Yeah, I've said it before and I'll say it again...Borowski doesn't have closer stuff. He's effective as a set-up man, but he doesn't have the fastball velocity to blow hitters away. You've gotta have that in your arsenal.

Hawkins is a better set-up man. I think Farnsworth is the best closer on the Cubs. How's Wellemeyer? I heard somewhere that he may have good stuff.

by **DieHardCubbie** » Sat Apr 10, 2004 1:55 am

Andy1234 wrote: Just be glad its not Rod Beck.

51 saves...and that is something to complain about... :-?

Hyde wrote:Why isn't Farnsworth the closer,

We have had Farney there before...not a good idea.... :-o

by **DGroundhog** » Sat Apr 10, 2004 2:03 am

After seeing him fail with the Twins I'm not expecting LaTroylet to be a decent closer either. He's proven he can be a solid set-up man, but I'm not sold on him as a closer.

by **JoeSoCal** » Sat Apr 10, 2004 4:00 am

tal1286 wrote:when are we gonna get a closer who shuts out games and doesn't let the other team hang around. Oh wait, we have one and his name is latroy hawkins.

I think you need to do a little more research.

by **Guest** » Sat Apr 10, 2004 4:05 am

I like the idea of having Hawkins or Farnsworth when we need some outs with two men on base and it is the sixth inning, then arbitrarily saving the best reliever for the ninth with a three run lead. The closer role is all pychological. I'de rather have good firemen to get the outs when you need them the most. I'm not saying there shouldn't be a closer role, its just nice to have a solid reliever like JoeBo for only 2 million who gets the job done most of the time (converted both his oppurtunities so far, 33/37 last year) and not overpaying a closer.

by **Andy1234** » Sat Apr 10, 2004 4:09 am

DieHardCubbie wrote:
Andy1234 wrote: Just be glad its not Rod Beck.

51 saves...and that is something to complain about...

I used Beck as an example because he always put the tying run on third before getting the save, the original poster was complaining how Borowski gave him a heart attack before he got the save. And I was pointing out that Beck did it much more frequent and everyone got much closer to death before the save. Although he was effective. But that wasn't the point.

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