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Postby LBJackal » Wed Feb 09, 2005 1:34 am

You keep back pedalling.... the NL East is OK but it's not loaded with SP's or anything. Florida has 2 good SP's but Beckett will miss half the season. Anyway, Beckett and Burnett. The Phillies and Nationals will be batting practice. The Braves do have 4 solid SP's though. You make it seem like he's facing a bunch of Cy Young candidates. Zam, Prior, Wood, Schmidt, Oswalt, Clemens, Peavy, Ollie Perez, and Ben Sheets are all in different divisions than Beltran. The onyl Cy Young cadidate he'll face in hsi division is Hudson. Why are you making a big deal out of that? And in 28 career AB's he has a .357 BA against Hudson anyways.
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Postby wrveres » Wed Feb 09, 2005 1:37 am

How am I back pedaling ... ?

and Beckett is only piching three months?
thats news ... ;-7
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Postby LBJackal » Wed Feb 09, 2005 1:40 am

wrveres wrote:How am I back pedaling ... ?

and Beckett is only piching three months?
thats news ... ;-7


Backpedalling even more, ahahaha

It's irrelevent, all this stuff you keep bringing up. Beckett could start 50 games and it wouldn't make much of a difference. Of all the NL, the East is probably the easiest to hit in. And he doens't have to face Pedro. Also, I added a little bit about Hudson in that last post, the only CY caliber SP in his division.
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Postby wrveres » Wed Feb 09, 2005 1:42 am

You want me to backpedal .... and I won't ... so nice try . :-°

talk to you in October. :-D


AROD !!!
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Postby LBJackal » Wed Feb 09, 2005 1:54 am

I don't want you to back pedal, you are back pedalling. You keep avoiding the actual stats these two will put up and bringing up comparisons with Rolen/Pujols combined, or whatever you were doing to show how much more important 3B is. Then you look at A-Rod's numbers in Arlingto and expect them to translate into Yankee Stadium; sorry, he isn't a .300 hitter. Then you say how the park he's hitting in is worse than last year, even though it's a fairly large upgrade for him. Then you resort to saying how tough the NL East is to hit in even though it has ONE Cy candidate (of the 10 in the NL) with whom Beltran has had great success against. You keep bringing up something that either makes no sense or is irrelevent, and avoiding the important facts. It's like you're trying to trick yourself into thinking A-Rod is #1 since he was #1 while at SS and in one of the best hitters parks. Well, he's not a SS anymore, and he's not in Texas anymore. The Yankee lineup helps, but he's still not even close to the #1 player.

So, see ya in October :-D
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Postby wrveres » Wed Feb 09, 2005 2:01 am

Well by your arguement ..
How many CY Pitchers are in the AL East?
Schilling and who else?
Maybe Holliday ...

and I don't think the words Arlington or Texas have even flowed off my keyboard, so I am not sure what you are talking about there. I have said numerous times that the figures came simply from Rototimes.

they are not mine ... ;-)
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Postby wrveres » Wed Feb 09, 2005 2:03 am

Nope ...

I just did a word search for Arlington and Texas ...

and you keep bringing it up, not me.
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Postby LBJackal » Wed Feb 09, 2005 2:07 am

wrveres wrote:Well by your arguement ..
How many CY Pitchers are in the AL East?
Schilling and who else?
Maybe Holliday ...

and I don't think the words Arlington or Texas have even flowed off my keyboard, so I am not sure what you are talking about there.


I never said the AL East was a tough division to hit in :-?

And I never cited you using the words Arlington or Texas. You had A-Rod at .300 and I'm saying there's no reason to believe a career .280 hitter will shoot up to .300, that's all. If you're using RotoTimes' stats then that doens't make much sense... why not give us your own projections? I'd like to see how you think Beltran and A-Rod compare stats-wise. It must be some piece of work if you think A-Rod is the #1 pick :-D
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Postby wrveres » Wed Feb 09, 2005 2:23 am

who is this career .280 hitter you speak of?

LMFAO


Arod?
He is a career .305 hitter ...
and you are dropping him to .280 to make your weak arguement work ..
Now I know why you are so confused ...
You need new stats. :-°
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Postby LBJackal » Wed Feb 09, 2005 2:38 am

.280 as in his un-Texafied BA.

Road BA's his last 3 years in Texas: .276, .277, .282.
Home BA's in the same time span..: .361, .323, .314

His combined road BA over the past 4 years: .282. His career at Yankee Stadium: .282. I see a lot of .282's there, and not a lot of .300's. Now I wonder how he managed too get that career .305 BA :-? Couldn't be his .332 BA at the Ballpark in Arlington.

Now quit beating around the bush, what are you projections? Rationale behind it would be good too if there is any :-D
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