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"PLEASE"..Need help quick..Joe Nathan or Juan Pierre?

Postby Purple Haze » Sat Feb 26, 2005 9:40 pm

Which player will be the more valuable Fantasy player this season?

(Or does anyone think Andruw Jones will be more valuable than both? is this finally the year for Andruw, he is only 27...)

(Regardless if you need Saves or SB's)

Which one will be the more valuable piece to a championship team (Fatasy MVP)?

(I know it's a difficult choice, but I just need opinons...)

Thanks in advance.. ;-D
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Postby NZF » Sat Feb 26, 2005 10:01 pm

Pierre, by some margin.

Don't expect Nathan to go close to the numbers he put up last season, although he will still be a more than effective closer ( Top 10 but only just).
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Postby Rico The Retard » Sat Feb 26, 2005 10:04 pm

Pierre easily
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Postby AtlDynasty25 » Sat Feb 26, 2005 11:14 pm

Pierre...what round is this?
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Postby CubsFan7724 » Sat Feb 26, 2005 11:21 pm

Pierre, but why are you so down on Nathan, NZF? He didn't come out of nowhere, he had an good year with SF in 03. He will be a top 5 closer this year, I think.
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Postby free » Sat Feb 26, 2005 11:35 pm

New Zealand Fan wrote:Pierre, by some margin.

Don't expect Nathan to go close to the numbers he put up last season, although he will still be a more than effective closer ( Top 10 but only just).



care to back up with any proof this claim about nathan not coming close to last years numbers :-?
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Postby NZF » Sun Feb 27, 2005 12:39 am

I'm not down on Nathan at all, I'm just expecting his second season in the AL to prove less fruitful than his first.

Expect an ERA closer to 3.00 than 1.62. K's will be good but he'll be more a Top 10 than a Top 5 closer.

Gagne is the only closer worthy of being compared equally with Pierre.
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Postby Ender » Sun Feb 27, 2005 12:45 am

Gagne is the only closer worthy of being compared equally with Pierre.


I disagree with that statement. All the big K closers and possibly Rivera are worth more than Pierre. Pierre is a good guy to have for 3 categories but he's a complete waste in the other 2 categories. He's not a 10-15 HR guy and since he's in the NL he won't get many RBI.
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Postby NZF » Sun Feb 27, 2005 2:24 pm

Pierre is a late third rounder. No other closer besides Gagne could be justified taking ahead of Pierre. Lidge and K-Rod maybe but there is an element of risk with both of those guys to take them so early.

If people are taking Crawford and Ichiro late first /early second then Pierre is definitely a late third rounder.

With Pierre you basically know what you're getting. He's going to play every day and rack up 650 plus AB's. With an average well over .300, a guaranteed 40 plus steals and 100 plus runs along with his 45-50 RBI's, his lack of HR's, hurts a fantasy team the same as Pujols lack of steals. In other words, it doesn't.
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Postby redsox34 » Sun Feb 27, 2005 9:49 pm

nathan... u get saves, low era low whip and k's
pieere... good avg and sb's which u dont care about

take nathan
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